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Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y "Dear Ubuntu, for the last couple years life has been good. Every time I've shown you to a friend or family member, they've compared you to what they're familiar with--Windows XP or Vista, mostly--and by comparison you've looked brilliant. Yeah, your ugly brown color scheme was a bit off-putting at first, but once people saw how secure, simple, and reliable you were, the response was almost universally positive. But recently, things have changed ..."
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darknexus
Member since:
2008-07-15

Wow, I wondered when we'd get someone spouting the Greg "Arsehole" KH "Ubuntu contributes nothing blah blah blah" rhetoric. They don't do much for the kernel, true, but they have done a fair bit with GNOME. Now, whether they've done good things or bad things is entirely open to debate, and GNOME are by no means obligated to accept their patches. That doesn't mean they contribute nothing however.

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Fettarme H-Milch Member since:
2010-02-16

they have done a fair bit with GNOME

How much do you think Canonical does compared to Red Hat and Novell?

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factotum218 Member since:
2007-03-20

It's like something that was scratched on a bathroom stall wall. Something to the effect of Red Hat contributes to the kernel, Novell contributes to the applications, Debian packages it, and Ubuntu takes the credit.

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Hoodlum Member since:
2009-05-22

Wow, I wondered when we'd get someone spouting the Greg "Arsehole" KH "Ubuntu contributes nothing blah blah blah" rhetoric.

I find it sad that someone (Greg KH) who has contributed so much to Linux gets debased in this way for stating the number of contributions from the significant parties involved in the Linux ecosystem.

He has given numbers on numerous occasions, this isn't some vicious rumor. Since when did telling the truth make you an "arsehole"?

PS. They haven't really done anything for GNOME either. The company you're looking for is RH there.

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darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

He's still an Arsehole, perfectly willing to downplay the efforts on everyone and anyone that isn't Novell or Red Hat. Plus, I will never forgive him for the Devfs fiasco, he single-handedly managed to prevent Linux from moving to the next stage in device management and is why we're stuck with clunky udev instead of a proper device filesystem. If you like I'll go find an archive of that thread and you can see just exactly why he's such an arsehole.

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Delgarde Member since:
2008-08-19

They don't do much for the kernel, true, but they have done a fair bit with GNOME. Now, whether they've done good things or bad things is entirely open to debate, and GNOME are by no means obligated to accept their patches. That doesn't mean they contribute nothing however.


Somewhat. They *do* contribute to Gnome, but they're not always very good about *how* they do it. Their mindset is to develop things for Ubuntu first, then push them upstream - a legitimate approach, but it means they're somewhat isolated, not actually *part of* upstream.

Consider Gnome 3.0 development. Ubuntu are probably the leading desktop distro, but they appear to have no involvement at all in the upstream vision of what the desktop will look like in a year's time. They're building their own things in their own distro, instead of trying to get Gnome to adopt their ideas.

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