Linked by David Adams on Tue 25th May 2010 04:07 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Over at Daringfireball this past weekend, John Gruber put words to what many people are thinking about after Google's rush of Android announcements and not-subtle Apple-bashing at this week's I/O conference: "all-out war." I agree with Gruber that a good old-fashioned bitter rivalry could be a great thing for the computing world, and for smartphone/handheld fans in particular.
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spiderman
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2008-10-23


So who are the industry leaders? Right now the iPhone is the best selling "smartphone" in the world. Android is the best selling "smartphone" platform in US.

Wrong and wrong.

RIM is done, MS is done, Nokia is done. I am not seeing any other leaders out there but maybe I am missing one?

Wrong, right, wrong. Missing one? You are missing the whole world outside Apple and Android! You have your head in the sand.

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Windows Sucks Member since:
2005-11-10

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So who are the industry leaders? Right now the iPhone is the best selling "smartphone" in the world. Android is the best selling "smartphone" platform in US.

Wrong and wrong.

RIM is done, MS is done, Nokia is done. I am not seeing any other leaders out there but maybe I am missing one?

Wrong, right, wrong. Missing one? You are missing the whole world outside Apple and Android! You have your head in the sand.
"

Ok still waiting on which smartphone company or particular phone or platform is doing better then Apple and Google? RIM was #1 in smartphones and their sales are stagnate! So whats left?

Saying my head is in the sand besides sounding childish, does not show facts.

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spiderman Member since:
2008-10-23


Ok still waiting on which smartphone company or particular phone or platform is doing better then Apple and Google? RIM was #1 in smartphones and their sales are stagnate! So whats left?

Saying my head is in the sand besides sounding childish, does not show facts.

Apple has about 15% of the "smartphone" market and Android about 10%. That sums up to about 25%. You missed about 75% of the world. "Smartphones" are about 20% of the phone market so you actually missed about 95%. Please don't take offense, I'm just noticing that the elephants are ignored once again.

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bousozoku Member since:
2006-01-23


...Wrong, right, wrong. Missing one? You are missing the whole world outside Apple and Android! You have your head in the sand.


Nokia is definitely on a downward slide and they know it. If not for their history, they'd be the smallest of the niche players. Warm and fuzzy won't work much longer. People want phones that work well. It's obvious that LG and Samsung are chipping away at Nokia on the bottom end and Android and iPhone at the top end.

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spiderman Member since:
2008-10-23

Nokia is definitely on a downward slide and they know it. If not for their history, they'd be the smallest of the niche players. Warm and fuzzy won't work much longer. People want phones that work well. It's obvious that LG and Samsung are chipping away at Nokia on the bottom end and Android and iPhone at the top end.

LG is actually the leader in "smartphones" (flashy stuff with short battery life). It has constantly been selling more "smartphones" than Nokia for years. Nokia isn't going under because Nokia phones is not their core business and they sell more "dumb" phones anyway (those with long battery life that people buy more). They are selling the core technology. They make the network to support the phones and the OS. LG and Samsung add their layer on top of Symbian. Bada looks interesting. I believe the future is all about QT though. Nokia emerged as the leader of the phone industry because they were the first to get that phones are to be sexy, then all followed.
Before anybody come and bash Symbian, let me just tell them they don't know what they are talking about.

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HangLoose Member since:
2007-09-03

The recent numbers in devices dont actually hold true to what you are saying.

They have been sliding but have recovered. With the new Symbian^3 and later Symbian^4 I think they can better compete with iPhone (what is the latest innovation from cupertino? Video calling?! Thats not innovation.)

Dont forget MeeGo, in the long run this is where Nokia is going.

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