Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 25th May 2010 15:44 UTC, submitted by Philipp Esselbach
Fedora Core It's Fedora release day! The Fedora project has pushed out version 13 of its cutting-edge Linux distribution. There's a whole boatload of improvements, some of which come from the wider Free software ecosystem, but of course, there's also a lot Fedora/Red Hat-specific stuff.
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Comment by moleskine
by moleskine on Tue 25th May 2010 23:45 UTC
moleskine
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2005-11-05

I upgraded online from fc12 to fc13. Anaconda fails with a bug (if it sees "ntfs-ng" rather than "ntfs" in fstab) but once I booted back into fc12 and altered fstab the installation ran fine. Or so it seems so far. I hope they've improved the fonts which, out of the box, were dreadful on fc12 though some very good work at infinality.net save the day. Mail is down, though, as they haven't yet upgraded amavisd to work with new versions of db4 so it won't run. I'll give them a week or so but if no luck then I'll return to Debian. Debian is the only one that has been reliable for me. They are very good at tying up loose ends and minimizing the permanent betaware come construction site aspects of Linux that bedevil other distros including Fedora in my experience.

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RE: Comment by moleskine
by Neolander on Wed 26th May 2010 20:50 in reply to "Comment by moleskine"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

I upgraded online from fc12 to fc13. Anaconda fails with a bug (if it sees "ntfs-ng" rather than "ntfs" in fstab) but once I booted back into fc12 and altered fstab the installation ran fine. Or so it seems so far. I hope they've improved the fonts which, out of the box, were dreadful on fc12 though some very good work at infinality.net save the day. Mail is down, though, as they haven't yet upgraded amavisd to work with new versions of db4 so it won't run. I'll give them a week or so but if no luck then I'll return to Debian. Debian is the only one that has been reliable for me. They are very good at tying up loose ends and minimizing the permanent betaware come construction site aspects of Linux that bedevil other distros including Fedora in my experience.

Yup, stability is good, but how do you manage their "only free" obsession ? Do you carry around a pen drive with your drivers ?

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RE[2]: Comment by moleskine
by moleskine on Thu 27th May 2010 09:24 in reply to "RE: Comment by moleskine"
moleskine Member since:
2005-11-05

Yup, stability is good, but how do you manage their "only free" obsession ? Do you carry around a pen drive with your drivers ?


You can call in third-party, non-free repositories on Fedora just as you can with other distros. The main one with all the important stuff is rpmfusion. So in practice I have found no problem. The other issue here was the fonts out of the box on fc12 which were barely usable, imho. Fortunately, someone at infinality.net, which also has a repo, put out some very good fixes and some very thorough font configuration files with the result that font rendering became not just good but excellent.

Setting up Fedora with all the eye-candy and multimedia stuff is not as easy as it is on Ubuntu, for example, but it is only slightly less easy. If that were to change for the worse, then my guess is Fedora would lose a lot of users.

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RE: Comment by moleskine
by Flatland_Spider on Wed 26th May 2010 22:48 in reply to "Comment by moleskine"
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2006-09-01

If Fedora is too beta, and it is a beta, CentOS might be a good free alternative. The CentOS team produces CentOS from the RHEL code, minus the RH branding, and the two are roughly equivalent. Since it is focused on stability, CentOS is a little dated when it comes to applications. Right now, it is sitting at 5.5, but 6.0 should be out in the next couple of months.

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