Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 8th Jun 2010 08:26 UTC
Apple We're a little late with this one, but hey, I have to sleep too. In the middle of last night, Apple released version 5 of its Safari web browser for both Mac OS X and Windows, and it contains some very interesting improvements, including an extensions framework.
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Bothersome
by Noctem on Tue 8th Jun 2010 13:48 UTC
Noctem
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2010-06-08

I'm I the only one annoyed that Safari for Windows is 50MB download that is bundled with Quicktime and Bonjour? What total crap. We'll ignore the fact that the UI was almost entirely ripped from Chrome, except for tab placement (Which they tried, and failed miserably at, and fixed it before Safari 4 went final).

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RE: Bothersome
by Sasparilla on Tue 8th Jun 2010 15:57 in reply to "Bothersome"
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2007-12-07

I'm I the only one annoyed that Safari for Windows is 50MB download that is bundled with Quicktime and Bonjour? What total crap. We'll ignore the fact that the UI was almost entirely ripped from Chrome, except for tab placement (Which they tried, and failed miserably at, and fixed it before Safari 4 went final).


It's a big download with QT. But, on the download page you can choose one of two Windows Safari versions for download - one with Quicktime and one without (saves about 20MB). Bonjour is coming in either one, although you can choose to not have that bothersome app installed during setup.

Regarding Safari ripping off Chrome's UI... Safari was released 5 years before the first beta of Chrome (back in 2003 on Panther) and overall UI design for Safari hasn't changed significantly since then (just tweaks).

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RE[2]: Bothersome
by Noctem on Tue 8th Jun 2010 17:43 in reply to "RE: Bothersome"
Noctem Member since:
2010-06-08

Take a look at a screenshot of safari 3, then safari 4, on windows. Safari 4 came well after chrome, and it shows.

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RE[2]: Bothersome
by Noctem on Tue 8th Jun 2010 18:08 in reply to "RE: Bothersome"
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2010-06-08

Also, when I downloaded Safari last night, having it bundled with QuickTime was the only option available. The standalone download was added some time today, so that, at least, has been corrected ;)

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RE: Bothersome
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 8th Jun 2010 15:59 in reply to "Bothersome"
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2006-07-14

Well, at one point all the apple for windows apps used the quicktime library for the GUI as well as the multimedia. So that explains quicktime. Bonjour is just stupid. 99.99% of people installing Safari for Windows will never use it.

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RE[2]: Bothersome
by robojerk on Tue 8th Jun 2010 16:26 in reply to "RE: Bothersome"
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2006-01-10

Is there any reason to install Bonjour on Windows? I have never heard of anyone using it.

I guess if you are in a Apple/Mac environment they would be using it. But shouldn't Bonjour be separated?

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RE[2]: Bothersome
by bousozoku on Thu 10th Jun 2010 01:13 in reply to "RE: Bothersome"
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2006-01-23

Well, at one point all the apple for windows apps used the quicktime library for the GUI as well as the multimedia. So that explains quicktime. Bonjour is just stupid. 99.99% of people installing Safari for Windows will never use it.


There are supposedly a number of printers that are using ZeroConf/Bonjour, but whether you need to install it or not, that's another matter. Is it part of Windows 7?

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