Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 11th Jun 2010 21:56 UTC
Windows Yes, the day is finally drawing closer: the day Windows XP died. October 22, 2010 will be the final and definitive day for the venerable operating system, since OEMs will no longer be able to pre-load it on netbooks after that day. I might not make myself popular around here with this, but thank god, it's about time that pile of junk is taken behind the shed.
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RE[2]: XP64 == XP
by WorknMan on Fri 11th Jun 2010 23:15 UTC in reply to "RE: XP64 == XP"
WorknMan
Member since:
2005-11-13

Windows 7 is better than XP. Categorically ;)


I find Win7 only marginally better than XP. Whoever wrote this article obviously had no f**king clue what they were talking about. Slipstream the latest service pack into your XP installation disc, along with whatever features you want plus your cd key (using nLite), and you can install XP with a couple of key presses. (Is it even possible to slipstream service packs anymore with Vista/7?) And after you install XP, use autopatcher to install whatever updates you need, and you're done. And it's fast too. Win7 takes forever to install, and 10-15gb vs 1gb? Win7 isn't THAT much more advanced than XP to account for all that extra space, so WTF did they put in there?

Then, once you start up Win7, you notice that it's not all that different. They threw in an OSX-style glassy-ass transparent UI (probably to appeal to the iTards), which is the first thing that got turned off. The second thing to get turned off was the new task bar; I guarantee you whoever thought up that train wreck never had more than 10+ apps on his quick launch toolbar, much less 30 or 40. The third thing to get turned off was the 'aero snap' BS, which kept wanting to attach windows to the top/sides of the screen every time I moved it around. Then they went and renamed/moved sh*t around for no apparent reason, so now I have to relearn where everything is.

Esentially, once I had all of this useless crap turned off, I was basically back to something that looked and felt like XP. Well, the start menu is better, but that's hardly worth the price I paid. I'm not saying there's anything particularly wrong with it, just that it's not a huge leap over XP.

In all the years I ran XP, I could count the number of times on one hand that it crashed, that didn't have to do with faulty hardware. It wasn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but I think it stands up quite well to Win7, at least for those of us who knew what we were doing. This is especially true when you consider that XP is almost 10 years old. In all this time, Win7 is the best that MS could come up with? The file manager doesn't even support tabbed browsing, for Christ's sake. Notepad still sucks ass. Most of the built-in apps are gone. Etc, etc.

Unfortunately, old things pass away, and we can't stay stuck in the past forever, so we must move on.... either to a new version of Windows, or to some other OS. Either that, or just hope our hardware holds out for another 20 years.

Edited 2010-06-11 23:19 UTC

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RE[3]: XP64 == XP
by vodoomoth on Fri 11th Jun 2010 23:59 in reply to "RE[2]: XP64 == XP"
vodoomoth Member since:
2010-03-30

In all the years I ran XP, I could count the number of times on one hand that it crashed, that didn't have to do with faulty hardware. It wasn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but I think it stands up quite well to Win7, at least for those of us who knew what we were doing. This is especially true when you consider that XP is almost 10 years old. In all this time, Win7 is the best that MS could come up with? The file manager doesn't even support tabbed browsing, ...


I totally agree. Especially the "file manager doesn't even support tabbed browsing" part: I've written a few days ago in a comment that Microsoft should've done themselves a favor and bought FreeCommander, and ClipDiary. I also mentioned RocketDock but Steve J. would be pissed off.
No tabbed browsing in the explorer? That's a joke! No clipboard history? Joke too! What are those OS vendors thinking about? There is still room for making users experience better. I hope the guys behind Haiku, AROS and likes know better than that.

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RE[4]: XP64 == XP
by phoenix on Sat 12th Jun 2010 00:06 in reply to "RE[3]: XP64 == XP"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

How does one use tabs in a file manager?

Separate windows I can see.

Window with folder tree I can see.

But I don't see how a bunch of tabs would be useful.

Not disparaging your comment; actually curious how this would be used.

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RE[4]: XP64 == XP
by WorknMan on Sat 12th Jun 2010 00:37 in reply to "RE[3]: XP64 == XP"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

No clipboard history? Joke too!


More than that, what about a system-wide spell checker? There are plenty of 3rd party apps that will account for most of what Windows lacks (including clipboard managers), but I don't know of any app that will give me spell checking across the entire OS. I'd almost be willing to give my right nut for one though ;)

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RE[4]: XP64 == XP
by nt_jerkface on Sat 12th Jun 2010 04:52 in reply to "RE[3]: XP64 == XP"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

If you don't like the file manager then download a new one. They aren't going to provide a double paned file explorer with built in ftp support for typical users.

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RE[3]: XP64 == XP
by nt_jerkface on Sat 12th Jun 2010 04:44 in reply to "RE[2]: XP64 == XP"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26


I find Win7 only marginally better than XP. Whoever wrote this article obviously had no f**king clue what they were talking about.


Then you must never read about computer security.

Thanks for that wall of text though.

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RE[3]: XP64 == XP
by marcp on Sun 13th Jun 2010 09:54 in reply to "RE[2]: XP64 == XP"
marcp Member since:
2007-11-23

"Win7 isn't THAT much more advanced than XP to account for all that extra space, so WTF did they put in there? "

AFAIR: WinSxS, which is the shared library folder. [I'm not a Win user though. so it comes from my own research and Win7 testing]

"Esentially, once I had all of this useless crap turned off, I was basically back to something that looked and felt like XP. Well, the start menu is better, but that's hardly worth the price I paid"

I'm still amazed you oaid it. You know, there was Win7 RC for testing purposes ... ;)

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