Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 30th Aug 2010 22:47 UTC
Apple Since interesting news that I'm actually knowledgeable about is still a little hard to come by, I have to work a little harder. This is something interesting to discuss: John Gruber, rather famous Apple blogger, is now arguing that Apple is in fact not fighting the jailbreaking community. Wait, what?
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RE: Voiding the warranty
by umccullough on Tue 31st Aug 2010 01:43 UTC in reply to "Voiding the warranty"
umccullough
Member since:
2006-01-26

Why? If I buy a new PC, format the hard drive and install whatever I want, should that also void my warranty? And what are smartphones other than pocket-sized PCs?


The correct analogy in this case would be that you bought a new PC and re-flashed the BIOS with a hacked version.

Say as a result you perhaps bricked the machine, or something went wrong with the overvoltage/overheat protection logic and it caused your mainboard to fry.

I'd say the manufacturer has a pretty good case for voiding your warranty (assuming this was disclosed in the terms).

Most "consumer devices" are not designed to be user-hacked - phones, game consoles, GPS units, etc. generally fall into this category.

On the other hand, your PC is designed (for the most part) to run any suitable OS - there are numerous ways built into the BIOS which allow booting alternative OSes from the start.

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RE[2]: Voiding the warranty
by WorknMan on Tue 31st Aug 2010 02:02 in reply to "RE: Voiding the warranty"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

The correct analogy in this case would be that you bought a new PC and re-flashed the BIOS with a hacked version.

Say as a result you perhaps bricked the machine, or something went wrong with the overvoltage/overheat protection logic and it caused your mainboard to fry.

I'd say the manufacturer has a pretty good case for voiding your warranty (assuming this was disclosed in the terms).


Well, you're speaking under the scenario that somebody actually bricked the device while trying to do something it wasn't designed to do, which of course is going to void the warranty ...

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RE[3]: Voiding the warranty
by wmlucas on Tue 31st Aug 2010 02:28 in reply to "RE[2]: Voiding the warranty"
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2010-08-31

Why would warranty be an issue unless there are problems with the device? Why should Apple need to diagnose a jailbroken phone to see whether the jailbreak led to the issue?

I haven't followed the saga regarding the Apple's comments about jailbreaking, but the company being against jailbreaking could be interpreted many different ways.

As a developer, I would be happy if the company put an end to App Store piracy. Piracy is a very serious problem here, considering that iPhone developers generally don't use or cannot use serial numbers to verify ownership. Even if the store facilitated this, the App Store is designed around impulsive purchase behaviours, such that serial number requirements would not be tolerated by users.

Personally, I doubt Apple is against using a jailbreak to grant access to SSH, to expose hidden functionality in the system, etc. That said, nobody here know their specific concerns either.

Edited 2010-08-31 02:33 UTC

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