Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 3rd Sep 2010 16:12 UTC
Apple "By now, most iTunes users have already downloaded and installed iTunes 10. We've already given you the low-down on the biggest addition to the new version of iTunes - the Ping social network - but we also wanted to give our impressions on two 'improvements' promised in the release notes: look-and-feel and performance. While we agree that iTunes is 'faster and more responsive', we're not sold on the revised user interface." Vertical window titlebar widgets? Can't we just take this thing 'round back and put a bullet between its eyes? We'd be doing everyone a favour.
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No it isnt
Member since:
2005-11-14

Apple does not deliberately erect barriers to new players? You mean their attempts at blocking the Palm Pre from syncing with iTunes wasn't deliberate?

Also, Apple is far from the only option in the portable mp3 player market, and even further from the best. Their players are poor value for money, compared to the rest of the market. They just happened to become fashion.

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Tony Swash Member since:
2009-08-22

Apple does not deliberately erect barriers to new players? You mean their attempts at blocking the Palm Pre from syncing with iTunes wasn't deliberate?

Also, Apple is far from the only option in the portable mp3 player market, and even further from the best. Their players are poor value for money, compared to the rest of the market. They just happened to become fashion.


There are available ways to do sync with iTunes using Apples SDK. What Palm did was a cheap trick which misused the agreed public rules governing the USB standard which was to pretend to be a device it wasn't (ie an iPod). I have no idea why Palm took that route - it seemed nonsensical to me but it was after all coming out of a business that was imploding. But Apple did nothing wrong here and Palm's actions, subverting and breaking agreed open standards around USB, should not be defended by anybody here.

I will also restate my main point - which is that Apple's business model is not monopolistic even where, though free and fair open competition, they have achieved any sort of monopoly (the only case where they have done this is with the iPod). Apple does not use monopolistic practices as part of its business model. Apple does make products and services that work unusually well together, that is very much part of their business model, but that is not monopolistic - its just clever.

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Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

I will argue that...
-Once distributors begin to put iPods apart from others DAP/PMP, on a shelf that's visible right away while the others are put aside in the back of the store, as if it was some kind of special product...
-Once we ONLY see ads about iPods, and they are everywhere... (ads costs money which competitors don't have)
-Once the most popular music store, which mostly gained its place through clever use of the already large iPod market share, will only easily sync with the iPod... (don't tell me that the files can be accessed, I know that. The problem is that most people don't, and think iTunes files can only be accessed through syncing)

...we can suspect that there's some monopolistic practices around.

Edited 2010-09-05 06:48 UTC

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No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

You conveniently forget that Palm didn't mimic Apple's USB string before Apple started updating iTunes to lock them out.

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redshift Member since:
2006-05-06

Palm needed to make their own sync tool. Instead of masqueraded as a device by spoofing an ID in the USB protocol. That is a DYI hacking approach and is not becoming of professional software development.

I tried many other MP3 players and they all sucked horribly before I got an ipod 3G (which still works). Eventually I moved to an iPhone 3G. It has worked extremely well for me for a couple of years now. It even syncs well with my corporate email. Droid is about the only thing that comes close to providing a strong alternative... and it is not there yet. Especially with Motorola locking Droid X up tighter than an iPhone.

I will agree that iTunes on windows feels awkward. It is much more natural on OSX.

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