Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 12th Sep 2010 11:34 UTC
Apple The iPhone jailbreak community is on a roll lately. Not only did the US Library of Congress do the right thing by adding the jailbreaking DMCA exemption, the two major jailbreak application stores - Rock and Cydia - will merge into one. Cydia will acquire Rock, an all Rock applications will be moved into Cydia. There's also some impressive statistics in here that indicate just how popular jailbreaking really is.
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RE[3]: Well...
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 12th Sep 2010 18:27 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Well..."
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

If the App Store had not been invented


Apple did not invent anything. The App Store is a software repository with an automatic updating mechanism. This concept is as old as time itself. dpkg was created in 1993, for instance.

Please stop spreading the nonsense that Apple invented the App Store concept. It's just a package management system; nothing more, nothing less. I was running package management systems on my mobile devices when Apple was still busy with trying not to die.

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RE[4]: Well...
by koki on Sun 12th Sep 2010 20:10 in reply to "RE[3]: Well..."
koki Member since:
2005-10-17

The enabling technologies may have been there long ago. The app store concept may not be their invention (perhaps in the same way that they did not invent the GUI that made the Mac so successful). But that does not change the fact that Apple's app store is the first commercially viable implementation of an online app store that targets consumers, and a very successful one at that too.

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RE[5]: Well...
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 12th Sep 2010 20:12 in reply to "RE[4]: Well..."
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

The enabling technologies may have been there long ago. The app store concept may not be their invention (perhaps in the same way that they did not invent the GUI that made the Mac so successful). But that does not change the fact that Apple's app store is the first commercially viable implementation of an online app store that targets consumers, and a very successful one at that too.


There's a world of difference between "successfully implemented for the first time" and "invented".

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RE[4]: Well...
by Tony Swash on Sun 12th Sep 2010 21:26 in reply to "RE[3]: Well..."
Tony Swash Member since:
2009-08-22

Please stop spreading the nonsense that Apple invented the App Store concept. It's just a package management system; nothing more, nothing less. I was running package management systems on my mobile devices when Apple was still busy with trying not to die.


Yeah the world was littered with App Stores and everybody was busy using them to download apps to their phones and then - dang - along came Apple and copied other people's stuff again and made it into a gigantic success. Why do Apple keep doing that? Its really, really irritating.

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by Moredhas on Sun 12th Sep 2010 22:45 in reply to "RE[4]: Well..."
Moredhas Member since:
2008-04-10

The same way Sony have an uncanny knack for ruining perfectly good ideas, Apple have a knack for pollishing already founded concepts. Usually in the marketing phase. The mac wasn't the first computer with a GUI, but they made the idea accessible. The iPod wasn't the first portable digital audio player, but they made it seem cool rather than functional and geeky. The iPhone wasn't the first smartphone, though you'd think it was by the way people rave, Apple took existing ideas, tacked on a fairly slick interface (though not the most ergonomic) and marketed it well. The iPad, giant iPod touch, great marketing, but nowhere near the functionality of, say, Toshiba's tablet notebooks of a few years back.

Apple have probably never done anything new, they just have an expert marketing team. If I had a crazy new idea that just might take off, I'd make a nerdy, functional implementation, then sell it to Apple for some kind of royalty arrangement. As much as I despise their closed policies, I have to admire that marketing power, and the overall finish of their products.

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by SuperDaveOsbourne on Tue 14th Sep 2010 03:25 in reply to "RE[3]: Well..."
SuperDaveOsbourne Member since:
2007-06-24

Maybe it would be better stated that Apple decided to strongly market and regulate/control the software repository model of distribution. Thom, please name some of the mobile/small devices you were using package management systems on in the mid/late 90s, and their package management tools.

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RE[5]: Well...
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 14th Sep 2010 11:56 in reply to "RE[4]: Well..."
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Thom, please name some of the mobile/small devices you were using package management systems on in the mid/late 90s, and their package management tools.


I ran Linux on PDAs, mostly Debian-based. Do the math.

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