Linked by mjhi11 on Thu 16th Sep 2010 20:13 UTC
Apple I love OSNews, but it does seem like some of its editors enjoy just a little too much taking a good natured jab at Apple upon occasion (well, more like every chance that particular editor can get). I thought it time for a little good news and analysis about Apple that critics often overlook.
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RE: Comment by Tuishimi
by No it isnt on Thu 16th Sep 2010 21:06 UTC in reply to "Comment by Tuishimi"
No it isnt
Member since:
2005-11-14

Apple is only priced "fair" if you treat it as a standard and look for a PC with the exact same specs. If you think rationally, on the other hand, and spec a system for what kind of performance you need, Apple is usually hideously expensive, and even worse when you consider the cost of upgrades.

I know a Mac would cost more than twice the price of my current PC if I were to go that route, and its performance would still be worse. Then again, I only wanted to be able to play GTA4.

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RE[2]: Comment by Tuishimi
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 16th Sep 2010 21:11 in reply to "RE: Comment by Tuishimi"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

The problem is more often that Apple tends to make weird combinations to save money - big-ass processor, yet crappy and too little RAM, sub-standard hard drives, underpowered video cards, and so on.

That being said, Apple rules the roost when it comes to laptops (although HP's Envy line is comparable now, I just haven't ever seen one here) and the iMacs. Best computers you can recommended to friends and family.

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RE[3]: Comment by Tuishimi
by No it isnt on Thu 16th Sep 2010 21:33 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Tuishimi"
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

The laptop lines are fine (except the Airbook, which is mostly a vanity product), but the iMacs? The only thing they've got going for them is the form factor, certainly not the price. Upgradability is low, and OS X support cut-off means a >5yr old Mac is obsolete. It's a fine product, but it's still very expensive compared to a comparable PC.

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RE[3]: Comment by Tuishimi
by Finchwizard on Thu 16th Sep 2010 22:17 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Tuishimi"
Finchwizard Member since:
2006-02-01

Your right. 4GB RAM in the entire iMac range and Laptop range as standard. What bastards.

And Sub Standard hard drives? What are you smoking? Hitachi have always been a great brand, so have Seagate.

I've had both in my Macs.

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RE[3]: Comment by Tuishimi
by r_a_trip on Fri 17th Sep 2010 13:50 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Tuishimi"
r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

Best computers you can recommended to friends and family.

Maybe if you want to brush your friends and family off and not have anything to do with support. I've found it much easier to just select a machine that has the necessary power to perform the tasks a friend or a family member wants to perform. (In my case that is more often light stuff). If Windows is a requisite, then that is what they'll get.

I'd rather they go with Linux. Intel system with *Nix OS. Same oomph as what Apple sells, but at a fraction of the cost. Some of my "clients" did go with Linux and they are the least intensive, support wise.

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RE[3]: Comment by Tuishimi
by kaiwai on Sat 18th Sep 2010 01:42 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Tuishimi"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

The problem is more often that Apple tends to make weird combinations to save money - big-ass processor, yet crappy and too little RAM, sub-standard hard drives, underpowered video cards, and so on.

That being said, Apple rules the roost when it comes to laptops (although HP's Envy line is comparable now, I just haven't ever seen one here) and the iMacs. Best computers you can recommended to friends and family.


So a Radeon 5XXX series video card and 4GB of RAM as standard is considered horrible these days? colour me confused given that I can do my work quite comfortably on 4GB of RAM. If the criticisms were directed at the Mac Pro - its always been a rip off ever since it was released. There was a moment in history where the PowerMac low end model was actually within reaching distance of the prosumer but these days in NZ you're forking over at least NZ$4K+ for something that is only marginally better than the NZ$600 cheaper maxed out iMac.

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RE[2]: Comment by Tuishimi
by marsofearth on Sun 19th Sep 2010 17:15 in reply to "RE: Comment by Tuishimi"
marsofearth Member since:
2009-12-13

I know a Mac would cost more than twice the price of my current PC if I were to go that route, and its performance would still be worse.

Suggesting that a macintosh uses lower system specs than your "PC" for twice the price.

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