Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 19th Sep 2010 19:05 UTC, submitted by sjvn
Novell and Ximian Novell has been pretty much for sale for six months, and now The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Novell's Linux business may be bought by VMware. Novell's other assets, which includes Novell Netware, will then be bought by a private-equity backed software company called Attachmate Corp.
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RE[6]: Worry?
by kaiwai on Mon 20th Sep 2010 09:42 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Worry?"
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I think Ballmer hates Linux and mainly injected cash into Novell as a move against Red Hat. It didn't work and MS might decide to cut out while they can and take .net with them.


*shrugs* I simply don't see Mono gaining traction in the *NIX world because of the lack of native development tools up to the same standard of what Microsoft provides. I look at Visual Studio and Expression Studio and I don't see a single thing in the *NIX world that can hold a candle to it. Mono on the server side just isn't scalable either; they retrofit some VM stuff together and call it a framework but as soon as you chuck it on a site with several hundred thousand visitors per day the thing will go belly up. So it just doesn't have the strength in any areas hence people stick with Java.

I don't believe Microsoft has any 'evil plan' in store for the OSS world other than producing great products and marketing on those strengths. When push come to shove and one looks at the cost of going with a commercial Linux compared to Windows the main competition for the Linux world is the commercial UNIX world (but that might change with Oracle now owning Solaris). For Microsoft their shipments keep going up and up without needing to even sneeze at the Linux world. This 'scaremarketing' by the Linux advocates simply exposes their fear of Microsoft than Microsoft fearing anything to do with the *NIX world.

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RE[7]: Worry?
by Declination on Mon 20th Sep 2010 15:18 in reply to "RE[6]: Worry?"
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2009-11-26

Perhaps not, but Mono has at least found one high profile use in Unity3d. So, even if most of the *nix people have no use case or it has found traction in a fairly important product.

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RE[7]: Worry?
by nt_jerkface on Mon 20th Sep 2010 16:24 in reply to "RE[6]: Worry?"
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*shrugs* I simply don't see Mono gaining traction in the *NIX world because of the lack of native development tools up to the same standard of what Microsoft provides.


Neither do I but MS might want to pull out with their tech to make sure VMware has nothing to work with.


I don't believe Microsoft has any 'evil plan' in store for the OSS world other than producing great products and marketing on those strengths.


I wouldn't describe it as an evil plan but I think the deal with Novell was a strategic move against Red Hat and not the result of a desire to improve interoperability with Linux. They could do that without propping up Novell and if they were serious then they would be have gone to Red Hat first since it is far more commonly used in enterprise.

They underlying motivation was to keep a Linux competitor alive against Red Hat and then have a pet Linux distro in the enterprise to possibly monetize or play with later.

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RE[7]: Worry?
by Bounty on Mon 20th Sep 2010 16:26 in reply to "RE[6]: Worry?"
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This 'scaremarketing' by the Linux advocates simply exposes their fear of Microsoft than Microsoft fearing anything to do with the *NIX world.


Not that simple actually. I think there are those in Linux land that fear MS and vise versa. I don't think MS is stupid enough to not have a healthy fear (or respect if you will) of Linux. I think MS is certainly worried about Android.

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RE[8]: Worry?
by nt_jerkface on Mon 20th Sep 2010 17:19 in reply to "RE[7]: Worry?"
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2009-08-26

Both have good reason to have a healthy fear of each other.

Apple competes with MS on the desktop but has made it clear that they don't care about the enterprise market.

What Linux really threatens is Windows Server and SQL Server. Windows Server Web Edition exists entirely to make WS more competitive with LAMP stacks.

I think they both provide good competition for each other on the server and I also think that Linux advocates were right to be skeptical of the Novell deal. MS does not want to help Linux become more competitive with WS. They could have improved Nix interoperability without injecting cash into Novell.

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