Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 20th Oct 2010 19:02 UTC
Apple So, Apple held its usual autumn press get-together just now, and after a few rather uninspiring ones (to me, at least), they finally managed to blow me away, with the new MacBook Air (especially the 11.6" variant). They also gave a sneak peek at Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, which has... An App Store. An App Store Apple is going to open on Snow Leopard within 90 days.
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RE[7]: Comment by Kroc
by Neolander on Thu 21st Oct 2010 08:09 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by Kroc"
Neolander
Member since:
2010-03-08

Well, *nix systems have the advantage of allowing you flexible access to the lower levels of the system, and in an approachable, programmatic manner.
Free operating systems give a much bigger opportunity for education, as well.

These are things I value, and I wish more people did, as well. It just seems insane to me to put something so amazingly powerful as a computer in front of you, and never bother to understand it.

Well, half of me agrees and half of me disagrees...

As an OS developer, I'm extremely sensitive to the argument that computer are wonderfully hackable machine and that it's sad to imagine that one day we could, like with cars, become slaves of the vendor as far as their internals are concerned.
But as a computer user, including when writing and testing code... I just want the machine to work like a perfect black box ! I don't care how it works, as long as it works perfectly.

I'd say we should always keep access to the machine at the lowest level, but let those who want a black box ignore what's inside of it.

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RE[8]: Comment by Kroc
by TheGZeus on Thu 21st Oct 2010 13:21 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by Kroc"
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2010-05-19

I'd say we should always keep access to the machine at the lowest level, but let those who want a black box ignore what's inside of it.

Hmm.



On my way into deep WI to help my uncle move(why else would I be in WI??), I saw many people on the side of the road with basic flat tires, either waiting in their cars texting/reading/on the phone, or just staring at the flat tire, scratching their head.
That implies to me that they didn't know that step 1 is jack the car up until there's no pressure on the rim...

I want an automagical car, too.
It's not a reality, and I don't think it ever will be.

Hiding the internals doesn't eliminate bugs. It makes Windows.

Also, OS X has inherited BSD's stability, but not its security, and years of marketing have people who love their magical black box unprepared for the viruses that will be coming soon.

I don't see why it has to be one-or-the-other. Ubuntu is Doing It Wrong, but the initial stated goal was nice. I used it for a year until Mark started to do his best to be second-class Steve Jobs.

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RE[9]: Comment by Kroc
by TheGZeus on Thu 21st Oct 2010 13:28 in reply to "RE[8]: Comment by Kroc"
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2010-05-19

Ugh.
I confused myself and answered somthing you didn't say, but rather what someone said to me afk the other day, in the conclusion.

I think that while for the most part your car should Just Work, everyone should understand how it works on a basic level.

I've met people that didn't know you have to change the oil, etc.

Imagine a world where everyone gets charged for various services that were never done/don't exist at the mechanic, but they don't care, because they don't know.
That's the world of proprietary software as I see it.
What's the benefit? Some of it is more featureful currently? I just don't see the advantage of a few features being great enough to be told what to do.
Every time I use Flash or rar(the only proprietary programs I have installed) I sweat a little...

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