Linked by David Adams on Sun 24th Oct 2010 23:06 UTC, submitted by sawboss
Apple Being the brains behind Microsoft has made Bill Gates the wealthiest guy in the world. So he can pretty much afford to buy his kids any gadgets they want. However, Apple devices are banned in the Gates’ house. This is surprisingly not a rule set by Bill Gates. Melinda Gates has made it very clear in an interview with The New York Times that she does not allow Apple hardware in the house. If the kids want an iPod they’ll have to settle for a Zune instead.
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Wise Move
by woegjiub on Sun 24th Oct 2010 23:57 UTC
woegjiub
Member since:
2008-11-25

I refuse to purchase or install any Apple product, as they are complete shit.
iPods need rockbox to be made useful, the iPhone needs gaolbreaking to be made useful, iTunes is seriously ugly (as is the rest of their brushed aluminium rubbish), and quicktime is essentially malware.

Every Apple product has at least one superior alternative.
iPod? Archos media player.
iTunes? Foobar2000
iMac? Linux/Windows custom build.
quicktime? VLC.
iPhone? Android, MeeGo, WinMo7, Blackberry, WebOS.

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RE: Wise Move
by thavith_osn on Mon 25th Oct 2010 00:50 in reply to "Wise Move"
thavith_osn Member since:
2005-07-11

Itunes doesn't have brushed metal anymore, and hasn't for a long time...

I guess not knowing what their current products are like is a good reason not to choose them. I "bag" windows, but only because I use it. I don't really want to "bag" Windows based on Vista (which was around when iTunes last had brushed metal - LOL)...

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RE[2]: Wise Move
by nt_jerkface on Mon 25th Oct 2010 02:40 in reply to "RE: Wise Move"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

Vista was fine after SP1.

Itunes for Windows has been total garbage since its creation.

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RE[2]: Wise Move
by woegjiub on Mon 25th Oct 2010 04:44 in reply to "RE: Wise Move"
woegjiub Member since:
2008-11-25

http://www.apple.com/itunes/
Still horrible and bloated, but my bad on them removing the brushed from the metal.
I last used snow leopard, and simply hate its restrictive and (IMO) ugly UI.

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RE: Wise Move
by kaiwai on Mon 25th Oct 2010 04:32 in reply to "Wise Move"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

I refuse to purchase or install any Apple product, as they are complete shit.
iPods need rockbox to be made useful, the iPhone needs gaolbreaking to be made useful, iTunes is seriously ugly (as is the rest of their brushed aluminium rubbish), and quicktime is essentially malware.

Every Apple product has at least one superior alternative.
iPod? Archos media player.
iTunes? Foobar2000
iMac? Linux/Windows custom build.
quicktime? VLC.
iPhone? Android, MeeGo, WinMo7, Blackberry, WebOS.


Assuming you want to do it all yourself. Archos? come on - why the hell would you want to use something with such a horrible reliability track record and bundles an ancient version of a firmware? In New Zealand to get an Archos net tablet you'll be paying $300 more than an iPod Touch and an ancient version of Android on it - fuck that for a joke.

What you've provided is nothing other than, "here is some half baked shit that I'll use simply to spite Apple" - I don't give a crap about the company, all I care about is the end result. The simple fact of the matter is that most of Apple's competitors just don't have their act together - it is that simple.

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RE[2]: Wise Move
by woegjiub on Mon 25th Oct 2010 04:48 in reply to "RE: Wise Move"
woegjiub Member since:
2008-11-25

I have over 300GB of music (15% or so in FLAC), that is why I would like to use archos.
Admittedly, they are too expensive and too buggy, so I would not buy one, which leaves the media player market completely empty in my eyes.
iPods lack capacity, although with the installation of rockbox to allow FLAC playback and drag+drop, they do become handy.
Not good enough for me to overcome my loathing of the draconic fruit company, though.
This leaves me with chucking the largest microSD I can into my android, and using that with music converted to .ogg.

They do not have their act together?
Dude.
I love foobar2000 and Android, I use them every day.
Same goes for Windows, VLC and Firefox.
Ubuntu is rapidly getting there, and would be my default OS if it played all the games windows can, just as Opera will become my default browser when their extensions become diverse enough.

I like having OPTIONS.
Apple products "just work", but loathe being customised in the slightest.

Edited 2010-10-25 04:56 UTC

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RE[2]: Wise Move
by lemur2 on Mon 25th Oct 2010 05:06 in reply to "RE: Wise Move"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

In New Zealand to get an Archos net tablet you'll be paying $300 more than an iPod Touch and an ancient version of Android on it - f--k that for a joke. What you've provided is nothing other than, "here is some half baked shit that I'll use simply to spite Apple" - I don't give a crap about the company, all I care about is the end result. The simple fact of the matter is that most of Apple's competitors just don't have their act together - it is that simple.


In Australia for the same price as an iPod touch you can buy this Android tablet:

http://www.pioneercomputers.com.au/products/info.asp?c1=183&c2=185&...

It has a bigger, higher-resolution touchscreen, it supports Google Chrome web browser, and Flash, it has a micro-SD memory slot, a 1.3Mpixel camera, USB ports, G sensor, email and YouTube.

The battery life is not as good as an iPod touch, however.

The main bonus I suppose is that, unlike an iPod touch, the ePad 7 does not list an expensive Mac or PC desktop computer amongst its System requirements.

I presume it wouldn't be too much trouble for you to buy this in New Zealand. It should certainly work perfectly well enough and be compatible, and warranty etc. should apply.

If you wanted to go a bit up-market, for $130 AUD less than an iPad, you could get this ePad P10 3Dui from the same Australian company:

http://www.pioneercomputers.com.au/products/info.asp?c1=183&c2=185&...

This device runs Android Version: 2.2 (Froyo), it has Flash Support, 3D UI, with Kernel core: 2.6.32, and it features amongst it very nice specs an ARM Cortex A9 dual-core CPU @ 1Ghz and nvidia Tegra graphics.

Apple's competitors products ... are not as well known or as well hyped as Apple's products.

Edited 2010-10-25 05:15 UTC

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RE: Wise Move
by henderson101 on Mon 25th Oct 2010 11:36 in reply to "Wise Move"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

I enjoy Apple products. Opinions like yours used to bother me. But then someone pointed out something to me. I'll share that with you - what do you expect Apple's reaction to be to your extreme Apple bashing? Well it would be this "Apple thanks you and hopes you continue to enjoy non Apple products. Your choice is our pleasure!" Honestly, Apple doesn't want you as a customer, so your rant is just pure hyperbole to them. Infuriating, isn't it? :-P

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RE[2]: Wise Move
by woegjiub on Mon 25th Oct 2010 16:16 in reply to "RE: Wise Move"
woegjiub Member since:
2008-11-25

Infuriating? No ;)

I simply get sick of Apple products being touted as supreme, when I see them as nothing more than supremely limiting and expensive.
But then, my favourite desktop is KDE. I love configuration options.

The main point was that really, not being able to use apple products is no biggie, as most items have plenty of alternatives, which tend to be far less restricted.

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RE: Wise Move
by mrstep on Mon 25th Oct 2010 12:24 in reply to "Wise Move"
mrstep Member since:
2009-07-18

Melinda, is that you?

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RE: Wise Move
by polaris20 on Mon 25th Oct 2010 21:13 in reply to "Wise Move"
polaris20 Member since:
2005-07-06

I refuse to purchase or install any Apple product, as they are complete shit.
iPods need rockbox to be made useful, the iPhone needs gaolbreaking to be made useful, iTunes is seriously ugly (as is the rest of their brushed aluminium rubbish), and quicktime is essentially malware.

Every Apple product has at least one superior alternative.
iPod? Archos media player.
iTunes? Foobar2000
iMac? Linux/Windows custom build.
quicktime? VLC.
iPhone? Android, MeeGo, WinMo7, Blackberry, WebOS.


An incredibly narcissistic viewpoint common on OSNews.com. iPods need Rockbox? Not really. They're MP3 players. They play audio files, and they do it well for an enormous number of people.

iPhones need to be jailbroken to be useful? No, not for millions upon millions of people.

Superior alternatives? Some are valid, some are hysterically funny. Archos? WebOS? Meego? Blackberry? Really? And have you even personally used WinPhone7?

The point is, sheer numbers don't make a product right; however neither does blind hatred of Apple make them the wrong products for people either.

Your post reads like a sour grapes user experience who goes out of their way to replicate the functionality of Apple products without using Apple products. That's fine, whatever works for you.

But I seriously have to laugh when I see posts like yours, because it's so blindingly obvious you're trolling against Apple as much as Apple evangelists troll for Apple. Neither party is a member of reality.

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