Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 25th Oct 2010 21:43 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Well, this was inevitable. After Samsung and Sony Ericsson abandoning Symbian for their line of smartphones, and after Symbian Foundation executive director Lee Williams leaving the company for "personal reasons", there's now a report that the Symbian Foundation is winding down its operations, in preparation for closing up shop entirely.
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Laurence
Member since:
2007-03-26

Apple is successful not because of the iOS kernel - but because of the overall presentation of the phone, including the hardware. Android vendors failed to present a UI experience that matches or surpasses that of Apple. If Apple knows one thing is how to make UIs for the masses.

Now you're contradicting your original point!

Make your mind up - either smartphones need Linux or they don't.


Oh, and I'm fully versed in why the iPhone was a success. It's not exactly rocket science now is it.

Edited 2010-10-27 09:09 UTC

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axilmar Member since:
2006-03-20

Now you're contradicting your original point!
Make your mind up - either smartphones need Linux or they don't.


You are confused because you make the classic mistake of including the UI in the definition of 'Linux'. Linux is the O/S, i.e. the kernel and the drivers; it does not include the UI. There is no economic point in investing in another kernel/drivers combo.

The UI, though, that is offered with Linux O/Ses has to do a lot to catch up with the iOS devices or the UIs of desktop systems.

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Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

You are confused because you make the classic mistake of including the UI in the definition of 'Linux'. Linux is the O/S, i.e. the kernel and the drivers; it does not include the UI. There is no economic point in investing in another kernel/drivers combo


No, you are the one who is confused because you're arguing against points I have never made.

In fact, I'm not entirely sure you're not intentionally trolling me. However - giving you the benefit of the doubt for now - I can assure you that I am fully aware of what Linux is thank you very much. I even stated in the very post you originally replied to: "Google's Android is still Linux - it's just not GNU/Linux.", thus demonstrating a working knowledge of the difference between Linux (the kernel) and Android / GNU (the userspace)


Furthermore, you're still missing the point / deliberately changing the subject away (depending on the intention of your tangent) from your original claim that manufacturers shouldn't bother with non-Linux platforms.



The UI, though, that is offered with Linux O/Ses has to do a lot to catch up with the iOS devices or the UIs of desktop systems

That's entirely a matter of opinion.

For example, I personally favour KDE4 over Aero and Aqua (or whatever OS Xs DE is called). But I know a number of people on here would see KDE as an inferior product to GNOME.

At the end of the day, it's just a matter of what works best for that user. As everyone is different, it stands to reason that different UIs are going to be better for different users. So stating that you're preferred UI is superior to mine smacks of little more than unproductive elitism.

Back on topic though (and as stated above) this is a tangent that has little to do with the point I raised against your absurd claim.

Edited 2010-10-27 12:13 UTC

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