Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 2nd Nov 2010 23:10 UTC, submitted by poundsmack
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "Under an initiative sponsored by the European Commission, the Symbian platform was this week endorsed by the Artemis Joint Technology Initiative and specifically identified as a unique technology that is a vital focus for European-centric mobile software development. As a result, a total investment of over EUR 22 million has been committed to the development of next generation technologies for the Symbian platform. This development project is being led by the Symbian Foundation as part of a consortium of major European technology organisations. The consortium is made up of 24 organisations from 8 European countries, comprising major mobile device manufacturers, hardware and service integration professional services, major consumer electronics companies, mobile network operators, application developers, universities and research institutions."
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technology socialism?
by project_2501 on Tue 2nd Nov 2010 23:14 UTC
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2006-03-20

Is this an example of technology socialism?

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RE: technology socialism?
by some1 on Wed 3rd Nov 2010 01:42 in reply to "technology socialism?"
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2010-10-05

Or necrophilia.

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RE[2]: technology socialism?
by PatrickQuinn on Wed 3rd Nov 2010 12:39 in reply to "RE: technology socialism?"
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2010-06-08

Made my week.

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RE: technology socialism?
by Neolander on Wed 3rd Nov 2010 09:16 in reply to "technology socialism?"
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2010-03-08

Is this an example of technology socialism?

No, it's called public research. It's the basis of the most of the technology we have today. The principle ? Make a R&D investment that is only valid when thinking more than 5 years forward. Most companies can't get that logic, so we give that task to governments ^^

The symbian kernel is intrinsically much more well-suited to mobile devices than Linux or BSD. The current problems with SymbianOS on phones are mostly in the user-space. So fixing that user-space is much more sensible in the end than switching to some Linux distro and requiring 1 GHz processors to be bundled in phones so that it runs relatively smoothly. But it's a harder path...

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RE[2]: technology socialism?
by asdf on Wed 3rd Nov 2010 14:50 in reply to "RE: technology socialism?"
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2009-09-23

Do you think the 1Ghz processor is busy running the kernel? Your logic is completely upside down. The kernel doesn't matter all that much as long as it provides proper access to hardware features. Sure, it may make a few percent difference in overhead here and there but that's about it. There's a reason google chose to build the android userland from ground up not the kernel and mac/ios are doing fine with the rather outdated kernel. So, yeah, it's a proper necrophilia.

Addition:
Also, "The symbian kernel is intrinsically much more well-suited to mobile devices" is non-sense. It's the other way around. Because the applications and hardware which needed to be supported were fairly limited, symbian could get away with its own limited custom kernel. There's no valid market drive behind it anymore. Pouring blind money into it will only make the whole process more horrifying/amusing to look at.

Edited 2010-11-03 14:58 UTC

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v RE: technology socialism?
by Karitku on Wed 3rd Nov 2010 09:20 in reply to "technology socialism?"
RE[2]: technology socialism?
by Neolander on Wed 3rd Nov 2010 09:51 in reply to "RE: technology socialism?"
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2010-03-08

I have a question for you from the communist world : do you really think that atomic energy would have been possible without some "academic fools without any real world experience" like Marie Curie working on it ? Do you really think that companies would have spent a single cent and offered a single square meter of lab for studying dull pechblende rocks, in their world of shareholders and their cult of economic growth ?

Edited 2010-11-03 09:53 UTC

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RE[2]: technology socialism?
by Soulbender on Wed 3rd Nov 2010 15:34 in reply to "RE: technology socialism?"
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2005-08-18

Beats hiring industry lobbyists.

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RE: technology socialism?
by kaiwai on Thu 4th Nov 2010 02:20 in reply to "technology socialism?"
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2005-07-06

No, more like the idea of 'French champions' policy being extended to the EU Parliament. With that being said, lets not try to kid ourselves that the United States don't do a similar thing - companies rescued by 'convenient' contracts being won (WorldCom goes into chapter 11 and spontaneously wins a US government contract! of course *THAT* isn't a bail out *rolls eyes*) or no-compete contracts when it comes to supplying the Pentagon. So yes, all countries to some degree follow such policies - does it make it right? no but at the same time it isn't something like an 'EU only' thing.

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