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From a legal standpoint, it's irrelevant how "damaging" the data is. The reason for the furor is the simple fact that a large corpus of classified documents have been compromised. Under U.S. law, this is a big deal completely on its own, and any U.S. citizen acting material support of such information release is liable for some life-wrecking criminal charges.
From a legal standpoint, it's irrelevant how "damaging" the data is. The reason for the furor is the simple fact that a large corpus of classified documents have been compromised. Under U.S. law, this is a big deal completely on its own, and any U.S. citizen acting material support of such information release is liable for some life-wrecking criminal charges.
Wikileaks was founded by Assange in 2006, and it has been operating now for four years.
IMO, the US has only now moved against Wikileaks probably because there is something actually damaging to the government itself, or to a government-sponsored buisness.
http://humantrafficking.change.org/blog/view/wikileaks_reveals_us_t...
From a "government for the people" standpoint, I don't believe it is government concern for the interests of the US people themselves that is driving the issue.
Exclusive: Key FBI whistleblower: Had WikiLeaks existed, 9/11, Iraq war ‘could have been prevented’
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/exclusive-wikileaks-benefits-pub...
Edited 2010-12-10 02:02 UTC
From a legal standpoint, it's irrelevant how "damaging" the data is. The reason for the furor is the simple fact that a large corpus of classified documents have been compromised. Under U.S. law, this is a big deal completely on its own, and any U.S. citizen acting material support of such information release is liable for some life-wrecking criminal charges.
What the DoJ's motivation is for stepping in now (as opposed to earlier) is, honestly, an academic question. It's possible that they simply didn't expect WikiLeaks to actually obtain or release a significant body of classified information.
You can be forgiven for finding this hard to believe, but the DoJ doesn't pursue Life-Wrecking Charges for their own amusement. It's entirely possible that they simply held off prosecution until a significant and unambiguous breach of U.S. statutes had taken place - effectively, that they gave WikiLeaks (or, rather, U.S. citizens and businesses working with WikiLeaks) the benefit of the doubt for as long as possible.
You can be forgiven for finding this hard to believe, but the DoJ doesn't pursue Life-Wrecking Charges for their own amusement. It's entirely possible that they simply held off prosecution until a significant and unambiguous breach of U.S. statutes had taken place - effectively, that they gave WikiLeaks (or, rather, U.S. citizens and businesses working with WikiLeaks) the benefit of the doubt for as long as possible.
The deeper question to be asked here is "what if the government itself is acting 'illegally'"? Do you think it is OK for a government to get away with reprehensible behaviour merely by stamping a "classified" rating on something?
U.S. citizens working with WikiLeaks however - for example, who fund WikiLeaks, mirror it, or possess copies of the documents - are significantly more vulnerable to prosecution.
Exactly who is the government supposed to be protecting?
I think the US constitution might have something to say about that ... something about "government for the people".
Edited 2010-12-10 02:30 UTC





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IMO the damaging one for the US is the last one.
WikiLeaks cables reveal how US manipulated climate accord
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-us-mani...
This is basically US lies for utterly greedy, selfish purposes. The US shouldn't be playing with the ecological health of the planet all for the sake of the richest 2% of Americans to become even more insanely rich.
However, back to your point, ... if the information revealed via Wikileaks is not an issue, why the furore over it?
It is, after all, the US which is making the claim that Wikileaks is out to damage the US alone. (Clearly this is not so ... Wikileaks seeks to expose corruption and illegal behaviour whoever is perpetrating it.) The US is trying to find a way to bring some trumped-up charge against Assange, and extradite him to the US. The US is the party out to execute whistleblowers and suppress freedom of the press.
So, either the leaks are damaging to the US, and biased against the US, or they are not. Which is it?
Edited 2010-12-09 22:00 UTC