Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 5th Jan 2011 21:22 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems Just - just hold on a second. This is big: NVIDIA, maker of graphics accelerator chips, has just announced, during its keynote at CES, that it is developing a high-performance ARM-based processor together with ARM, targeted squarely at the desktop, server, and even high-performance computing markets. That Windows on ARM thing? NVIDIA referenced it multiple times! Update: Boom, and we have a press release. "NVIDIA announced today that it plans to build high-performance ARM based CPU cores, designed to support future products ranging from personal computers and servers to workstations and supercomputers. Known under the internal codename 'Project Denver', this initiative features an NVIDIA CPU running the ARM instruction set, which will be fully integrated on the same chip as the NVIDIA GPU."
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RE[6]: Two points:
by apoclypse on Thu 6th Jan 2011 06:00 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Two points:"
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There are some OEMs that cater specifically to the OSS/Linux crowd. system76 comes to mind. There systems only come with Ubuntu installed. They are what your are looking for. I have no idea as to the quality of their machines or their support but it proves that there are OEMs that cater to Linux out there.

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RE[7]: Two points:
by UltraZelda64 on Thu 6th Jan 2011 07:55 in reply to "RE[6]: Two points:"
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2006-12-05

There are some OEMs that cater specifically to the OSS/Linux crowd. system76 comes to mind. There systems only come with Ubuntu installed. They are what your are looking for. I have no idea as to the quality of their machines or their support but it proves that there are OEMs that cater to Linux out there.

I heard about that company.

I'll admit... by asking (though I didn't specifically say it, trying to prevent blind "yeah I heard of them, they're great just 'cause they support Linux!!! responses), I was actually hoping to get opinions on whether this company's customer service and hardware components are good, or not. I recall their systems being at least slightly higher priced than the typical competitors' Windows offerings (likely because of the lack of crapware and demos including anti-virus to offset the hardware cost), but that can be forgivable if their hardware and service is good.

One definite plus is that by buying from them, Microsoft doesn't get another penny. That is great, but the company itself (support) and its hardware components need to at least be decent.

Edited 2011-01-06 07:59 UTC

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RE[8]: Two points:
by lemur2 on Thu 6th Jan 2011 09:50 in reply to "RE[7]: Two points:"
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"There are some OEMs that cater specifically to the OSS/Linux crowd. system76 comes to mind. There systems only come with Ubuntu installed. They are what your are looking for. I have no idea as to the quality of their machines or their support but it proves that there are OEMs that cater to Linux out there.

I heard about that company.

I'll admit... by asking (though I didn't specifically say it, trying to prevent blind "yeah I heard of them, they're great just 'cause they support Linux!!! responses), I was actually hoping to get opinions on whether this company's customer service and hardware components are good, or not. I recall their systems being at least slightly higher priced than the typical competitors' Windows offerings (likely because of the lack of crapware and demos including anti-virus to offset the hardware cost), but that can be forgivable if their hardware and service is good.

One definite plus is that by buying from them, Microsoft doesn't get another penny. That is great, but the company itself (support) and its hardware components need to at least be decent.
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In the US, check out these two companies:

http://zareason.com/shop/home.php

http://www.system76.com/

Even I know about these two companies, and I reside in Australia.

As for price versus quality ... normally the higher the quality, the higher the price (altough personal computer software does seem to be a glaring exception to this general rule). In a fair market, for the exact same hardware, a Windows system typically costs (in AUD$) the following amounts more than an Ubuntu system:

(showing a DreamBook Light U11 CULV laptop model for comparison, $699 AUD for the bare hardware)
http://www.pioneercomputers.com.au/products/configure.asp?c1=3&c2=1...

Ubuntu Linux OS Pre-loaded [+$0]
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition with Recovery CD [+$39]
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (32/64 Bit) [+$129]
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (32/64 Bit) [+$169]

All prices quoted in $AUD. $169 AUD is an additional 24% over and above the base price of the machine. Even then, the Microsoft Windows 7 Professional price is for the installation of a bare OS only, whereas Ubuntu comes with a complete set of desktop applications already included.

The exact same pricing applies to this desktop model:
http://www.pioneercomputers.com.au/products/configure.asp?c1=4&c2=2...

I am not in a position to say if the US market is a fair market, or not.

Edited 2011-01-06 10:03 UTC

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