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My only problem is the developers insistence on using a proprietary compression method on their files.
I just don't want to install 7-Zip just to de-crypt one file. Complaints to the developers go unheeded.
There's a reason everyone used ZIP compression. It's a standard, and widely supported. 7z files aren't.
The developers of AROS are more interested in forcing their compression program preference on users than providing something that user can use. There really isn't a reason to compress .iso files anyway.
7z is not proprietary, the specs are documented and 7-zip sources are available under the LGPL.
Free, Flossy, and their tool is a big improvement over winrar on windows...
So why didn't they use it create an 'Ultra-tight' standard openable on everything .zip file? Instead of something that requires the user to spend 5-10 minutes finding some obscure often strange program that opens it?
They want people to try this, why add the additional step? to save 4 or 5 MB of a 216.3MB download?
The nice thing (for users) about .zip files is that Windows can extract those without any additional software.
But what a minor thing to upset about. Just install one of the multi-format compression utilities; you'll undoubtedly need it more than just this once.
The whole point is NOT to have to install additional cruft on my system to expand ONE file.
No other software requires a proprietary format utility to expand the distributable.
Most developers trade a small savings in size for ubiquity. ZIP files can be expanded in Windows, MacOS and Linux without need to install a special program.
The replies in this thread are EXACTLY the user unfriendly replies I'm talking about.
1. The Live! version come in a auto-extracting archive, so you won't have to install anything to extract it. If you don't use Windows but Linux, you are supposed to rename the file cutting the '.exe' and leaving just the final '.7z' extension, and there are 90% chances that your distribution's file and package managers will be able to handle it. If you're using MacOS, than you'll probably have to spend 5 minutes of your time to download 7zip.
2. As other said, 7zip is open, free, and produces smaller archives than classic zip. Smaller archives means also minor download time, minor spent energy, and also minor bandwidth used to transfer the file. A difference of a few dozens megabytes over a 700 MB file might seems small for a single user downloading it, but when downloads are some thousands, they turn into many gigabytes or even a terabyte off. I think you can easily figure the economic and ecologic gain of it.
3. I can't exactly understand why a person that makes downloading of a single program a problem, should download and install a whole new operating system that will bring him the necessity of learning everything from scratch. You have issues downloading and installing a little, simple, tiny file decompressor... what will you do when you'll not find your 'explorer', your 'firefox' or your 'opera' anymore?
4. Your trolling about the 7zip issue had success: nobody actually talked about the distribution, about AROS progresses, about all the efforts we put into this, but you succeeded turning this thread into a compilation of obvious answers. All this with a pathetic rant about a compression format. Applause.
Hater's gonna hate ;-)
7-zip is a modern open compression format.
ZIP was proprietary, but 7-zip is free and opensource.
BTW everyone around me has 7-zip installed.
Maybe it is a time to leave the ancient cage you're in? Edited 2011-02-04 11:30 UTC