Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 11th Feb 2011 11:35 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless A lot of people are wondering why Nokia didn't choose to go with Android. How can Nokia differentiate themselves when Android is a lot more open and free than Windows Phone 7? As usual, the key to this is in the details. If you read the announcements carefully, you'll see that Microsoft offered Nokia something Google most likely didn't. Update: What a surprise. Elop just confirmed Nokia has a special deal with Microsoft. Whereas HTC, Samsung, and so on are not allowed to customise WP7 - Nokia is, further confirming my theory.
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Hum ...
by acobar on Fri 11th Feb 2011 14:26 UTC
acobar
Member since:
2005-11-15

IBM had a special deal with Microsoft, we all know how it ended.

Novell had a special deal with Microsoft, we all know how it ended.

DEC had a special deal with Microsoft, we all know how it ended.

SGI had a special deal with Microsoft, ...

Lets put it plain, Microsoft has a very smart management that will try all tactics to empower itself and once it get what it wants you better have something to keep them from dump you.

Even if Nokia has a special deal now, it does not extend automatically to a new WinPh version. And in a very limited time Nokia may be just one more player. That is how software business works.

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by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 11th Feb 2011 14:30 in reply to "Hum ..."
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by Radio on Fri 11th Feb 2011 14:34 in reply to "RE: Hum ..."
Radio Member since:
2009-06-20

The '90s called, they want your paranoia back.

The XXIst century called, they don't want your Zune and Kin.

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by acobar on Fri 11th Feb 2011 14:38 in reply to "RE: Hum ..."
acobar Member since:
2005-11-15

And they were nothing on Client/Server, as they were nothing on 3D expertise, as they were nothing on Server infra-structure. But used very well the "underdog" image and turned the table. They looked for the right things: expertize, inter-communication and association to be viewed as a trustful and capable player. Once they got what they wanted ..., it is history now.

Edited 2011-02-11 14:40 UTC

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by segedunum on Fri 11th Feb 2011 17:17 in reply to "RE: Hum ..."
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

The '90s called, they want your paranoia back.

Actually, the 80s called. They tell us that those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

The NEED Nokia to be successful.

No they don't. They're going to get Windows on to a lot of phones and they've got a cushy little number, because they control the platform. If Nokia goes bust they'll move on to something else. Nokia is taking all the risk here.

Edited 2011-02-11 17:17 UTC

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by Soulbender on Sat 12th Feb 2011 15:03 in reply to "RE: Hum ..."
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Yes, this deal is much better for Microsoft than for Nokia, just as the deals the OP listed.
Soon Samsung et al are going to go to their sales rep and tell him "wtf dude, why do Nokia get this special treatment? Why arent we allowed to do what they're doing? Get your shit together or we'll move to something else."
After this one of two things will happen. MS will either let all Win7 OEM's do what Nokia does (contracts arent forever, ay know) or the other OEM's will jump ship for something else.
Guess what's Microsoft's preferred option and guess how that will work out for Nokia...

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by bert64 on Sat 12th Feb 2011 17:03 in reply to "RE: Hum ..."
bert64 Member since:
2007-04-23

They needed IBM too...
When they no longer need Nokia, then Nokia will be dropped and screwed. MS has a long history of screwing their "partners" and they have done nothing to suggest that this behaviour is going to end.

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by deppbv78 on Fri 11th Feb 2011 15:24 in reply to "Hum ..."
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2008-06-29

Did Microsoft kill their hardware or did they become redundant due to lack of innovation?
Except for IBM, I'm not sure if Microsoft burned them. Even in case of IBM, MS did whatever they did to allow clones to come up so that they can sell more OS licenses.

But, this is not the case today. WP7 is available for everybody. So, where are the chances for Nokia to get burned?

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by segedunum on Fri 11th Feb 2011 20:30 in reply to "RE: Hum ..."
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

So, where are the chances for Nokia to get burned?

What could happen is what has happened to every other company who has partnered with Microsoft to put Windows on phones - few people buy them and they either lose a ton of money or go bust.

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by MollyC on Sat 12th Feb 2011 15:30 in reply to "RE: Hum ..."
MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

DEC, SGI, and Novell killed themselves off for reasons having nothing to do with Microsoft, and acobar (and those that uprated his comment) knows it. But I'm sure he/she copy-pastes that lame comment over and over (it reads like regurgitated talking points) at various message boards and gets dozens of uprates from the seemingly mindless Microsoft bashers.

Edited 2011-02-12 15:32 UTC

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