Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 11th Feb 2011 16:00 UTC, submitted by aa
Multimedia, AV Well, well, well. The MPEG-LA is showing its true colours. After a decade of threatening to patent troll the living heck out of Theora, the company led by a patent troll has now finally put its money where its mouth is. Well, sort of. They don't actually have any patents yet, they're asking people to submit patents they believe are essential to the VP8 specification. Update: MPEG (so not the MPEG-LA) has announced its intent to develop a new video compression standard for the web which will be royalty-free. "The new standard is intended to achieve substantially better compression performance than that offered by MPEG-2 and possibly comparable to that offered by the AVC Baseline Profile. MPEG will issue a call for proposals on video compression technology at the end of its upcoming meeting in March 2011 that is expected to lead to a standard falling under ISO/IEC 'Type-1 licensing', i.e. intended to be 'royalty free'."
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Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Fri 11th Feb 2011 16:18 UTC
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"Prediction: MPEG-LA will sue someone before the year is out. They’re sitting pretty atm. But they have everyone’s arse on a collecting plate"--Kroc--13th Jan.

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by elsewhere on Sat 12th Feb 2011 04:28 in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
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"Prediction: MPEG-LA will sue someone before the year is out. They’re sitting pretty atm. But they have everyone’s arse on a collecting plate"--Kroc--13th Jan.

They can't sue anyone, though, because they have no patents to assert. They have non-exclusive rights to license patents on behalf of the patent holders, but it would have to be those individual companies that sue.

MPEG-LA is just strongly "suggesting" they may want to do so.

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Sat 12th Feb 2011 08:46 in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
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The MPEG-LAs licencing is set up so that they could cherry pick just about any individual or organisation and sue them. They are no better than the RIAA who want to extract money every time a song gets played.

At the moment they don’t need to go about litigating, despite a massive number of individuals and organisations not correctly paying their H.264 fees, they are earning enough steady income from television transmissions, cameras / camcorders / DVD & Blu-Ray players and the content industry; it would be expensive and messy to start suing people to try extract a small percentage more.

But everything is moving to the web. It won’t be long before every TV is Internet connected and video capable. And if those TVs support royalty-free WebM—which gives a price advantage to equipment manufacturers—then in 10 years time, the MPEG-LA could see their sweet little taxation on the populous completely dry up.

WebM is the biggest threat that faces them, and they will not go quietly. This is an organisation whose CEO trolls his own customers with patent litigation. Expect litigation against VP8 decoder manufacturers or service broadcasters. It is their only response when things get desperate.

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by kaiwai on Sat 12th Feb 2011 23:06 in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
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"Prediction: MPEG-LA will sue someone before the year is out. They’re sitting pretty atm. But they have everyone’s arse on a collecting plate"--Kroc--13th Jan.

But at the end of the day the direction of MPEG-LA is decided by the members who make up the h264 patent portfolio:

Apple Inc.
Cisco Systems Canada IP Holdings Company
DAEWOO Electronics Corporation
Dolby Laboratories Licensing Corporation
Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute
France Télécom, société anonyme*
Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft zur Foerderung der angewandten Forschung e.V.
Fujitsu Limited
Hewlett-Packard Company
Hitachi, Ltd.
Koninklijke Philips Electronics N.V.
LG Electronics Inc.
Microsoft Corporation
Mitsubishi Electric Corporation
Nippon Telegraph and Telephone Corporation
Panasonic Corporation
Polycom, Inc.
Robert Bosch GmbH*
Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd.
Sedna Patent Services, LLC
Sharp Corporation
Siemens AG
Sony Corporation
Tandberg Telecom AS
Telefonaktiebolaget LM Ericsson
The Trustees of Columbia University in the City of New York
Toshiba Corporation
Victor Company of Japan, Limited

Maybe instead of putting the pressure on MPEG-LA who are merely a front organisation that maybe it is better to put the pressure on the above organisations instead.

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by 1c3d0g on Sun 13th Feb 2011 01:41 in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
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When you have scum like Apple on the top of the list, no wonder these fuckers think about nothing but suing everyone and their dog. Those damned lawyers sure know how to piss people off!

I swear I will laugh my ass off the day WebM becomes the dominant codec for the Internet. Go Google Go!

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