Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 25th May 2011 17:02 UTC, submitted by kaiwai
Mac OS X Well, it took them long enough. Apple has finally acknowledged the existence of the MAC Defender trojan, and has offered removal instructions. The company has also promised a security update to Mac OS X that will block MAC Defender and its variants from working. All this information was published in the form of a support document on Apple's website. Update: Well, that was fast. A new variant of the trojan, called Mac Guard, has been discovered. Unlike previous variants, this one does not require users to enter their administrative password.
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How is this Apple's problem?
by 3rdalbum on Thu 26th May 2011 08:12 UTC
3rdalbum
Member since:
2008-05-26

If people are silly enough to download and run trojans, why is it Apple's responsibility to fix the damage that occurs? If it was an OS security flaw then Apple should fix it - if it was caused by dumb humans then it's not Apple's problem.

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Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

But if people have gotten the habit of usin their root password for small things and just considering it as an annoyance, it could be Apple's problem.

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henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

But, by default, you aren't asked for admin access any where close to as much as you were in Vista. The difference is that by default, the really, really stupid mistakes people make are covered - not every little thing. I personally have my default OS X account not set to be admin and so I get asked for my root password a lot more, but then I *read* the pop-up and decide if it's a threat or not. I don't just click through mindlessly.

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RE: How is this Apple's problem?
by flanque on Thu 26th May 2011 08:27 in reply to "How is this Apple's problem?"
flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

Yeah sure.. If this was Windows it'd be WTF M$ ARe SO CrAP!!!

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henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

Yeah sure.. If this was Windows it'd be WTF M$ ARe SO CrAP!!!


No.. Microsoft are still fledglings in the user experience. They just about got it right in Windows 7, but in Vista, every time you sneezed, you were asked to authorize it with the admin account. Try running Vista with multiple user logins, some of which aren't admins... you pretty much can't do anything as a standard user because you need an admin password repeatedly.

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pantheraleo Member since:
2007-03-07

If people are silly enough to download and run trojans, why is it Apple's responsibility to fix the damage that occurs?


Most computer problems are caused by users screwing up their own systems. If "user screwed it up. So we don't have to support it" is the end-all of tech support, than computer companies might as well not even provide it.

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polaris20 Member since:
2005-07-06

Where do you draw the line though? I've seen users cause plenty of stupid problems not even related to hardware or malware. Is the distributor of the OS responsible for that too? What is worthy of their time and effort?

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