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RE[2]: A human right... Really???
by pantheraleo on Sat 4th Jun 2011 23:22
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So is hot water, clean water, electricity or medical care.
Well, actually, access to clean water is pretty much a necessity to human life. Without clean water, we tend to get bacterial and/or parasitic infections and die. The same could be argued for medical care. Without at least basic medical care, quality and length of life would be greatly reduced.
When it comes to the Internet however, one could live a long and healthy life without ever using it or ever having access to it. So I really don't think your comparison is valid.
RE[3]: A human right... Really???
by Luminair on Sun 5th Jun 2011 04:25
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RE[3]: A human right... Really???
by JAlexoid on Tue 7th Jun 2011 01:04
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When it comes to the Internet however, one could live a long and healthy life without ever using it or ever having access to it. So I really don't think your comparison is valid.
"one could live a long and healthy life" without a roof over your head, freedom of expression or freedom of religion. Yet those are somehow part of the human rights convention.
BTW: Which comparison? That human rights are not always necessities of life, but stretch much more than that? Or that internet is like a library?
RE[2]: A human right... Really???
by jack_perry on Mon 6th Jun 2011 02:36
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"is not a necessity of life.
So is hot water, clean water, electricity or medical care. Or, come to think of it, freedom of religion, freedom of expression and most other freedoms you come to enjoy. "
Freedom of religion and expression are products or services?
I'm not just picking. There is, in fact, a fundamental difference between things like internet access, water supply, electric supply, and medical care, and things like religion, expression, and so forth. The former are impossible without modern technology; the latter are possible in any day and age, if we merely respect others.
When organizations like the UN elevate nearly every modern convenience to the status of "human rights", they make a mockery of the term.
Imagine you'd be barred from all and any libraries for sharing your book with 3 friends and allowed to buy books only 10 years in print(point here is out-of-date material). That would be basically what disconnecting you from the global knowledge banks(today aka internet) be 50 years ago.
This reason this would be immoral is not because "access to books" is a human right (books are a modern convenience) but because "freedom of expression" is a human right.
RE[3]: A human right... Really???
by Neolander on Mon 6th Jun 2011 05:50
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RE[3]: A human right... Really???
by JAlexoid on Tue 7th Jun 2011 01:09
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RE[2]: A human right... Really???
by marblesbot on Tue 7th Jun 2011 06:51
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So is hot water, clean water, electricity or medical care. Or, come to think of it, freedom of religion, freedom of expression and most other freedoms you come to enjoy.
Human right is not the same as free public service. Neither is it only a necessity of life.
Imagine you'd be barred from all and any libraries for sharing your book with 3 friends and allowed to buy books only 10 years in print(point here is out-of-date material). That would be basically what disconnecting you from the global knowledge banks(today aka internet) be 50 years ago. Knowledge is power.
Human kind advanced so fast only because education is a right and to a certain degree is maintained as a free public service in a lot of countries.