Linked by David Adams on Thu 15th Sep 2011 07:08 UTC, submitted by kristoph
Windows Microsoft announced during the build conference, and Steve Sinofsky reiterated in a blog posting that: "For the web to move forward and for consumers to get the most out of touch-first browsing, the Metro style browser in Windows 8 is as HTML5-only as possible, and plug-in free. The experience that plug-ins provide today is not a good match with Metro style browsing and the modern HTML5 web." Sinfosky goes on explain why Microsoft will not include Flash and why it's no longer needed. It's as close as we'll get to an obituary for Flash. Update from Thom: Added a note in the 'read more'!
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one problem
by Mellin on Thu 15th Sep 2011 13:45 UTC
Mellin
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2005-07-06

there's no standard codec for <video> and firefox and chrome doesn't support h.264

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RE: one problem
by shmerl on Thu 15th Sep 2011 17:11 in reply to "one problem"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

On desktop you can easily add WebM support to IE <video> tag. Not sure about mobile.

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RE: one problem
by kristoph on Thu 15th Sep 2011 20:12 in reply to "one problem"
kristoph Member since:
2006-01-01

yes but you can simply include two sources under the video tag, one for h.264 and one for WebM

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RE[2]: one problem
by shmerl on Thu 15th Sep 2011 20:44 in reply to "RE: one problem"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

Bad solution, since it doubles your storage requirements.

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RE: one problem
by lemur2 on Thu 15th Sep 2011 23:12 in reply to "one problem"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

there's no standard codec for and firefox and chrome doesn't support h.264


Turn it around.

Firefox, Opera and Chrome support WebM but not h.264, while IE9+ and safari can support WebM if a WebM codec is installed in the OS multimedia system.

Therefore, the only logical choice for website makers for HTML5 web video is WebM. Windows and Mac OSX users can still run IE9+ or Safari by installing a WebM codec.

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RE[2]: one problem
by shmerl on Fri 16th Sep 2011 01:24 in reply to "RE: one problem"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

Yes, the only culprits remaining are mobile Safari and IE.

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RE[2]: one problem
by henderson101 on Fri 16th Sep 2011 12:02 in reply to "RE: one problem"
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2006-05-30

Therefore, the only logical choice for website makers for HTML5 web video is WebM. Windows and Mac OSX users can still run IE9+ or Safari by installing a WebM codec.


Ah - "book them and they will come", famous last words. So, we substitute one dependency for another? Sounds like a lovely utopia.

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