Linked by David Adams on Thu 15th Sep 2011 07:08 UTC, submitted by kristoph
Windows Microsoft announced during the build conference, and Steve Sinofsky reiterated in a blog posting that: "For the web to move forward and for consumers to get the most out of touch-first browsing, the Metro style browser in Windows 8 is as HTML5-only as possible, and plug-in free. The experience that plug-ins provide today is not a good match with Metro style browsing and the modern HTML5 web." Sinfosky goes on explain why Microsoft will not include Flash and why it's no longer needed. It's as close as we'll get to an obituary for Flash. Update from Thom: Added a note in the 'read more'!
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You're wrong Thom
by joshv on Thu 15th Sep 2011 14:13 UTC
joshv
Member since:
2006-03-18

Thom's 'note' is deeply misinformed.

Adobe's been shipping a tool to create first class flash based apps for Android and iOS since June (Android since January). This includes an entire re-write of their Flex widget toolkit with touch-optimized sizing and interaction metaphors (flingable lists without scrollbars, etc...)

The flash player and AIR run time have also been updated to support touch gestures, including multi-touch.

So if you are using the Flex based Adobe toolkit, you are set. If you are using other more low level flash content creation tools, the onus is not on Adobe to produce touch friendly interfaces. They've provided the hooks to intercept touch gestures, it's up to content creators to make their UIs touch friendly with big buttons, and simplified interfaces.

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RE: You're wrong Thom
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 15th Sep 2011 14:37 in reply to "You're wrong Thom"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Adobe's been shipping a tool to create first class flash based apps for Android and iOS since June (Android since January). This includes an entire re-write of their Flex widget toolkit with touch-optimized sizing and interaction metaphors (flingable lists without scrollbars, etc...)


I think you missed this part:

"Flash may still serve a purpose in other ways, but the Flash most of us know and hate - that's gone."

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RE[2]: You're wrong Thom
by joshv on Thu 15th Sep 2011 15:56 in reply to "RE: You're wrong Thom"
joshv Member since:
2006-03-18

You said:

"I do think Adobe has had enough time to make Flash work properly on mobile, and they simply failed. Since the release of the iPhone, Adobe promised us a working Flash on mobile, and now, four years down the line, it's still not there."

This is patently incorrect.

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RE[2]: You're wrong Thom
by kristoph on Thu 15th Sep 2011 17:17 in reply to "RE: You're wrong Thom"
kristoph Member since:
2006-01-01

Yep, Flash will become (already is) a cross platform development tool.

It a tougher market though but they have all these dev's who are going to be looking for new jobs.

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