Linked by Antonio Ospite on Fri 21st Oct 2011 23:35 UTC
Gnome Antonio Ospite explores Gnome 3 in fall-back mode and tries to make it look and behave more like Gnome 2.32 again. This summer Linus Torvalds made it to the news for complaining about the gnome-shell design; Gnome fall-back mode is the solution for those like Linus who can't - or better, do not want to - use gnome-shell just yet.
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I actually like it...
by leech on Sat 22nd Oct 2011 01:20 UTC
leech
Member since:
2006-01-10

After I had found a reference to where they took a lot of design ideas from, I decided to give it a good fair shot. The design ideas came from the Nokia N900, which I love.

I do have a touch screen PC and Gnome 3 is very cool on it, though it does have some downsides. I blame it partly on Hardware though. My HP Touchsmart TX2 uses the n-trig multitouch screen, and because it is capacitive, it doesn't regocnize touch from fingertips, and the spot to activate the notification area is too small on Gnome 3 to activate from there.

Otherwise I am now running Gnome 3.2.1 on Arch Linux. I am glad they fixed the 'bug' that you couldn't hit enter at GDM to select the user you want to log in as.

The two biggest downfalls of Gnome 3.x would be 1) Hardware support. If you have an ATI card, it's crap. Finally the 3200HD works with the open source driver on my Touchsmart, but the Catalyst driver still fails. Supposedly fixed in 11.10? Last I used was 11.8 and it was broken horribly.

2) Discoverability. This was the issue with Gnome 2 on certain things as well, like the Control+L for typing in location on the file selector. With Gnome Shell is FAR more irritating due to a lot more hidden keyboard shortcuts are there. Since it's such a new paradigm of doing things, there are no old habits to depend upon. Like the Alt+Suspend will show the Power Off. That alone should have been fixed with 3.2.x. It should detect if it's a laptop or not, and then change the setting based on that!

Also the lack of any screen saver options besides times that it activates and whether it locks the screen is retarded. I mean come on, NO option to disable it? No option for boobs to fly across your screen, if you so choose?

I realize that we are literally only in the second release, and Gnome 2.x took 16 releases to get to where it was. (Yes, 16 releases, since only even numbers are considered releases) That's 8 years of development. Gnome-shell has been in development probably for around 4 years (I am not 100% sure on this). But now that it's out in the world, I would probably suggest most people to wait until Gnome 3.4, which I am guessing that Debian Wheezy will ship with. This was my original intention, and in the mean time I had switched to KDE4. I had so many issues with it and practically became religious again when I switched back to Evolution from Kontact.

Whatever Gnome 3's faults are, it has some seriously cool potential. Check out the Old Steampunk theme for it, http://samriggs.deviantart.com/art/Gnome-Shell-Old-Steampunk-251805...

It still needs updated to 3.2.x, and has a few weird issues, but is really nice. Reminds me of old Enlightenment DR13 that first got me started in Linux.

As I said, wait until Gnome 3.4, before you really start to judge too deeply. Remember KDE4.0~ It was terrible. I really think KDE4 sucked before 4.6.5 came out (and I used just about every .X release between 1 and 6. I would try it for about a day before it crashed all over the place).

Gnome 3.x isn't even as stable as Gnome 2 is, but I believe it will get there. But yes, for now, switch to something else and feel free to enjoy it! I mostly just miss wobbly windows now...

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RE: I actually like it...
by ozonehole on Sat 22nd Oct 2011 03:33 in reply to "I actually like it..."
ozonehole Member since:
2006-01-07

...Also the lack of any screen saver options besides times that it activates and whether it locks the screen is retarded. I mean come on, NO option to disable it?...


The following should disable the screen saver:

sudo chmod -x /usr/bin/xscreensaver

Should disable it permanently for all users. If you ever wanted to turn it back on again:

sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/xscreensaver

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RE: I actually like it...
by lucas_maximus on Sun 23rd Oct 2011 01:04 in reply to "I actually like it..."
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

tl;dr;

Seriously Gnome was pretty much Windows 98 with some panels ... it was alright ...

http://piestar.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/lucid_vs_windows.png

Lets not pretend it was the best thing ever .. It was decent and usable ... I personally had to put up with shit like CDE at university.

Edited 2011-10-23 01:06 UTC

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RE: I actually like it...
by zima on Fri 28th Oct 2011 23:49 in reply to "I actually like it..."
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

in the mean time I had switched to KDE4. I had so many issues with it and practically became religious again when I switched back to Evolution from Kontact.

Quite curious flavour of heresy you have there... ;)

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