Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 31st Oct 2011 23:17 UTC
Apple While it's just a rumour, this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone who hasn't been living under a rock the past five years, and in all honesty, I'm pretty sure it's actually true. AppleInsider is reporting that Apple is contemplating axing its iconic Mac Pro.
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Mac Pro = Hard to Justify
by Phloptical on Tue 1st Nov 2011 02:12 UTC
Phloptical
Member since:
2006-10-10

That sticker price is hard to swallow for the hardware you can basically get for half the price. A 12 core xeon and they cripple it with a lousy economy SATA2 drive, and then charge $5k for the whole package. Good job guys.

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RE: Mac Pro = Hard to Justify
by WorknMan on Tue 1st Nov 2011 02:18 in reply to "Mac Pro = Hard to Justify"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

That sticker price is hard to swallow for the hardware you can basically get for half the price. A 12 core xeon and they cripple it with a lousy economy SATA2 drive, and then charge $5k for the whole package. Good job guys.


Ya, seems like their laptops have gotten more competitive over the years vs the competition, but the desktops are still way too much.

Not everybody these days wants or needs a laptop, and you should be able to get an equivalent desktop to get serious work done for cheaper than the laptops, without having to have a monitor bolted on to it.

But then again, Apple has never really been about choice, so you get whatever THEY think is best for you.

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RE[2]: Mac Pro = Hard to Justify
by zima on Mon 7th Nov 2011 20:14 in reply to "RE: Mac Pro = Hard to Justify"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

you should be able to get an equivalent desktop to get serious work done for cheaper than the laptops, without having to have a monitor bolted on to it

Probably not for very long. Laptops are already for some time the majority of PCs sold, their share rising. Economies of scales should do the rest (and laptops even use less less raw materials, or take much less space when shipping).
Then there are nettops (sort of all the rage in few emerging markets, I hear) if you want something without monitor bolted onto it.

Traditional desktops should hang around, for "really" (for a year or so, tops, at least) high performance - but I doubt it will be cheap (the "desired" components in more need for servers? Even GPU cards might go there, primarily about GPGPU, Tesla-like); back to the old days of "workstation" I guess...
(but, won't it be more optimal to run something ~remotely on some server beast, via inexpensive laptop? So maybe even back to "terminal & mainframe")

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v RE: Mac Pro = Hard to Justify
by jackeebleu on Tue 1st Nov 2011 04:37 in reply to "Mac Pro = Hard to Justify"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

There is no comparison.

The HP supports up to 192GB of ECC ram. The included RAM (18GB) alone is worth $800.

The Mac Pro is basically two expensive CPUs combined with some other cheap parts in a fancy case.

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Gone fishing Member since:
2006-02-22

Go to HP site and search for = 594874-001. Or just google it. Go to Apple and configure= Z0M4 Apple = $5449 with 2 procs, 1TB 7200 HDD, HP = $5369 with 1 proc, no HDD closest spec as possible


These don't look equivqalent to me the hp is a server box with a rack mounted option and all the appropriate hardware,

a new generation server with more memory capacity and more HDD expandability. (quote hp)


whilst the Apple isn't.

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unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

The Mac Pros are only equivalent to the much cheaper HP Z600 line.

HP Workstation - Z600 - 6 GB RAM - six core Xeon, ITB HD

$2799

http://shopping1.hp.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/WW-USSMBPubli...

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

You're comparing a rackmount server which supports 192Gb of memory to a regular workstation which craps out at 32GB?

Not sure if trolling...

Edited 2011-11-01 11:04 UTC

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