Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 1st Dec 2011 22:29 UTC
Privacy, Security, Encryption So, this has been causing a bit of a major dungstorm - and rightly so. As it turns out, many carriers are installing a piece of non-removable privacy-invading spyware on their smartphones called CarrierIQ. It doesn't matter whether you have a webOS, Android, BlackBerry or iOS device - carriers install it on all of them. Luckily though, it would appear it really depends on your carrier - smartphones in The Netherlands, for instance, are not infested with CarrierIQ. Update: As John Gruber rightfully points out, ever so verbosely, the headline here isn't particularly well-chosen. The article makes all this clear, but the headline doesn't. It's my birthday today, so my head wasn't totally in it - my apologies! Update II: Just got a statement from an HP spokesperson: "HP does not install nor authorize its partners to embed Carrier IQ on its webOS devices."
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RE: Comment by MOS6510
by Soulbender on Sat 3rd Dec 2011 04:25 UTC in reply to "Comment by MOS6510"
Soulbender
Member since:
2005-08-18

In defense of iOS, this "feature" is turned off by default and it does exactly what the included description says should you want to turn it on


Except that a) the carrier can turn it on before they ship your device and b) most people don't know it exists.
In a way, it's actually worse than android since at least then the carrier has to go through the work of installing it while with iOS all they need to to do is turn it on.

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RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510
by MOS6510 on Sat 3rd Dec 2011 04:46 in reply to "RE: Comment by MOS6510"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

How can it be worse if it doesn't log 'n' report keystrokes, CAN be turned off?

Besides I haven't read carriers turning it on before handing out iPhones. Apparently the iOS welcome routine asks the user if they want to turn diagnostics on.

No way Apple would ever allow anyone, carriers or other companies, to change anything on their products without them doing it for them (and even then they probably wouldn't).

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Comment by zima
by zima on Thu 8th Dec 2011 20:57 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

In the real world, phones of clueless users are often set up in-store; carrier staff being able to do essentially anything with their settings.
For some time now, iOS devices don't even need iTunes for activation... (though bringing a laptop, for assistance with the process, wasn't beyond possible)

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