Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 7th Dec 2011 22:44 UTC
BeOS & Derivatives "So... I have finally gotten around to finishing the Haiku tutorial I set out to complete over a year ago. I was hoping to have it done sooner, but I decided to then prolong graduation for another year. However, my thesis project has been a rocking success, and you can finally see the fruits of my labors. This production should be incorporated into the project as official tutorial material." Okay so yeah it's a tad bit cheesy, but heck, it's BeOS, so shut up.
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RE: Not impressed
by aldeck on Fri 9th Dec 2011 12:13 UTC in reply to "Not impressed"
aldeck
Member since:
2006-12-07

but hardly any real hardware


I wonder where do you get this idea from (yeah sadly all the videos you see on the net are captured from a host os and vm), just come over at the annual gatherings and you'll see 80% of the people running it on real hardware. I've been using it without much problems on bare metal for 3 years. It's even one of the main purposes of this OS, to get most out of your hardware, having everything as fluid and snappy as possible.

Who would actually benefit from this OS even if it was done today?


You know, it's a usable open source OS. That by itself is a great achievement. It isn't perfect, but some people already have everything they need with it today. Others see great potential in it. Some just enjoy hacking on an ambitious yet focused project with a very open and friendly team.

What matters is the direction the project is taking and that it can live long enough to get there ;) I believe both points are covered.

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RE[2]: Not impressed
by avgalen on Fri 9th Dec 2011 13:16 in reply to "RE: Not impressed"
avgalen Member since:
2010-09-23

I get the idea about lots of unsupported hardware from news items on OS News where it is mentioned that "Haiku now supports USB", "Haiku now supports Wifi (unsecured only", "Haiku now supports WPA2", "Haiku now supports printing". I also base it on all those demo's in virtuals, even in this video. And I base it on the extremely limited list of compatible hardware on a couple of the searches that I did: http://haikuware.com/hardware/ and https://www.haiku-os.org/documents/hardware. And OF COURSE there will be a lot of people that are actually coming to Haiku meetings that are running on real hardware.

And I asked "Who would actually benefit from this OS even if it was done today?"

Your answer basically says "it is good enough for some already, it will probably get better and it is a great achievement". That doesn't answer my question "who would benefit?"

(and I personally wouldn't call an OS without multi-user and security "usable")

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RE[3]: Not impressed
by aldeck on Fri 9th Dec 2011 15:06 in reply to "RE[2]: Not impressed"
aldeck Member since:
2006-12-07

I'm not saying it runs everywhere like Linux based OS's, just saying that hardware support is much better than one would think by looking around like you did. USB is here since ages, the rest, although nice additions, isn't vital for my use case, though you must admit having well supported wifi support under linux distros is pretty recent too. Make your own opinion, the hw compat lists you cite are either not really maintained or explicitly non extensive.

I'm sorry, i believe i answered the best i could to your (rhetoric) question, by saying "I" benefit from it and i know personally other people that do too, all for different reasons i tried to summarize. Anything else on my part would be pure speculation. Other people "benefiting" from it please speak up!

The project doesn't try to define a "benefiting target", the only reliable target is the guys using it and developing it at the same time. They are making things nice for themselves and sharing to people alike, not trying to "take over the world" or reach some hypothetical market or people.

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