Linked by David Adams on Tue 27th Dec 2011 17:47 UTC
Multimedia, AV Boxee released version 1.5 of its free multimedia streaming software for Mac, Windows, and Linux desktops today, but simultaneously announced that it will cease offering the Boxee desktop software after January 2012. Thereafter, the company will limit its focus to devices such as the D-Link Boxee Box.
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Comment by kurkosdr
by kurkosdr on Fri 30th Dec 2011 22:34 UTC
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The mess with cable TV is mostly an American problem. Here in Europe and most of the world, we can record TV more easily. At least the FTA. And we don't have a government enforcing the donotcopy flag. Plus, a box like Boxee or Revue doesn't have to adhere to the CSS license agreement (which enforces the donotcopy flag via a contract), so it could be easier. What happened to DVD recorders anyway? They have almost went extinct from the selves nowadays. And at one time there were even Bluray recorders on the selves. And I never got the whole brouhaha about the donotcopy flag. One Macromaster adapter and it's gone.

Just my opinion, but "the government/mafiaa doesn't want us to" is a cheap cheap excuse. The MAFIAA didn't want mp3 players, but it didn't prevent them from happening. If we ask for something loud enough, the manufacturers will find workarounds and they 'll give it to us. The problem is that we don't ask it. We 've grown complacent with our torrents and the rest, and we are perfectly OK with a device that can only play. Plus it saves a couple of bucks, so some people actually consider devices that can only play more desirable.

Edited 2011-12-30 22:42 UTC

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RE: Comment by kurkosdr
by bornagainenguin on Sat 31st Dec 2011 01:58 in reply to "Comment by kurkosdr"
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2005-08-07

kurkosdr posted...

The mess with cable TV is mostly an American problem. Here in Europe and most of the world, we can record TV more easily. At least the FTA.


I wouldn't be so sure of that. I mean sure the UK has their TV license and the BBC is trying to ensure that anyone who pays the license fee gets access to their shows, even if this means through the internet and not a cable service. Only now due to unspecified "rightsholders" that is about to change:

http://www.openrightsgroup.org/campaigns/stop-bbc-drm/factsheet

kurkosdr posted...
And we don't have a government enforcing the donotcopy flag.


Uh...really? See above.

Besides it isn't the donotcopy flag that is what disturbs me as much as it is the donotrecord broadcast flag. Despite the US government repealing that provision the software and hardware manufacturers still continue to comply if the signal to disallow recording is sent to the dvr\pvr. There have been multiple incidents of Say Windows MCE refusing to record a program because this broadcast flag was set:

http://gizmodo.com/390898/media-centers-do-not-record-broadcast-fla...

kurkosdr posted...
Plus, a box like Boxee or Revue doesn't have to adhere to the CSS license agreement (which enforces the donotcopy flag via a contract), so it could be easier.


I wouldn't be so sure of that. The MPAA would attack anything that made it simple for customers to rip their own DVDs for playback from a system like that in a heartbeat. See:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/08/another-court-deals-major-...

http://gigaom.com/video/studios-sue-over-realdvd/

It simply isn't happening. Anyone trying to make it happen will be sued and destroyed in court. Common sense need not apply.

kurkosdr posted...
What happened to DVD recorders anyway? They have almost went extinct from the selves nowadays. And at one time there were even Bluray recorders on the selves.


1TB hard drives and a combination of sneakernets happened, that's what. Also consider the costs in price and time for copying files to a NAS or a portable hard drive compared to having to burn then verify the optical disc. And then hoping that the disc doesn't mysteriously stop working down the line.... A 1TB portable or NAS is simply easier and much cheaper. (At least it was until prices jumped due to the disasters in Thailand.)

kurkosdr posted...
And I never got the whole brouhaha about the donotcopy flag. One Macromaster adapter and it's gone.


Maybe. Unless of course it is illegal to own in your country as a "copyright circumvention device" and will be seized by customs if you order one. And if you're going to be breaking the law anyway, pirating is just easier and more compatible.

kurkosdr posted...
Just my opinion, but "the government/mafiaa doesn't want us to" is a cheap cheap excuse. The MAFIAA didn't want mp3 players, but it didn't prevent them from happening. If we ask for something loud enough, the manufacturers will find workarounds and they 'll give it to us.


Absolutely! I mean, just ask Rio Audio how easy it was to workaround the MAFIAA...oh wait. Yeah, they got sued into oblivion for their trouble. Ask Kaleidescape and RealNetworks how easy it was to workaround the issues, or ReplayTV...oops, nevermind ReplayTV is gone too. Hmmm...maybe...

kurkosdr posted...
The problem is that we don't ask it. We 've grown complacent with our torrents and the rest, and we are perfectly OK with a device that can only play. Plus it saves a couple of bucks, so some people actually consider devices that can only play more desirable.


Nice try, but the reality is downloading IS the workaround.

--bornagainpenguin

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