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FreeBSD Some people already submitted this news last week, but it wasn't until today that it became official: the FreeBSD team has announced the release of FreeBSD version 9.0. As you may expect from the major version number change, this is releas eis packed with new stuff.
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RE[4]: hm...
by Valhalla on Fri 13th Jan 2012 08:02 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: hm..."
Valhalla
Member since:
2006-01-24


How uncharacteristically reasonable of you. I agree.

That has always been my stance on the subject, as you can easily see by any other posts I've made on the subject.

and more about whether the author is treating the OSes I use as second class citizens or not. Hence my concerns about Mozilla, which you referenced earlier.

'Concerns'.. lol. Also as I recall it the big gripe you had (atleast only one I've seen) with Mozilla was that you hated how they wouldn't allow distro versions of Firefox to use the name Firefox (which to me makes perfect sense), then you gave your support to Chrome which did the exact same thing (Chrome - Chromium) indicating that whatever Mozilla did to create that huge animosity you have against them likely wasn't that.

I'm quite happy to see FreeBSD doing well. Such sentiments seem to upset some people.

Certainly not me, my favourite (and hopefully future day to day OS) is Haiku and I've never understood why some people despise it, sometimes for what seems like nothing but the fact that it exists.

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RE[5]: hm...
by sbergman27 on Fri 13th Jan 2012 17:10 in reply to "RE[4]: hm..."
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

This is more or less spilled milk over the dam at this point. But the way the newly formed Mozilla Corp handled the situation with Debian was pretty cheesy. They didn't really even give Debian time to do anything. It was more or less "Cease and Desist" right off the bat. Likewise, Mozilla's cavalier treatment of the very reasonable objections of the Firebird Database devs, whose project name Mozilla stole, left something to be desired. And then there is the continued treatment of non-Windows OSes as 2nd class citizens.

Of course, there are no doubt some number of other lower profile examples I won't bother to go into. It's really not worth the research time.

In the first 2 cases, Mozilla acted wrongly. In the 3rd, it's simply a matter of not wanting to support a project that doesn't care that much about the OSes I use at home and at work. Especially when the Chrome/Chromium devs view Linux as their premier platform.

I do believe in calling a spade a spade. I think you are mistaking that for some sort of vendetta. I don't waste time fretting about such things, these days.

I am, however, perceiving that you harbor some sort of vendetta against me, personally. Unfortunate. But I don't fret over that kind of thing, either.

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RE[6]: hm...
by Valhalla on Sat 14th Jan 2012 04:11 in reply to "RE[5]: hm..."
Valhalla Member since:
2006-01-24

It was more or less "Cease and Desist" right off the bat.

It was 'rename your unofficial version of Firefox to something else', exactly what Google tell people who would try to distribute unofficial versions under the Chrome trademark.

The reason they enforce this should be obvious.


Likewise, Mozilla's cavalier treatment of the very reasonable objections of the Firebird Database devs, whose project name Mozilla stole, left something to be desired.

Of this I know nothing.


And then there is the continued treatment of non-Windows OSes as 2nd class citizens.

Are you claiming Chrome (which you endorsed) was treating Linux as a 1st class citizen? How long did it take for them to even get a Linux port out? Even longer to get it up to par with the Windows version.

I think you are mistaking that for some sort of vendetta.

I remember you well from all the vitriol you've spread here on OSNews over the years, and seeing you back from your hiatus the first post I see is one where you're back to your usual FSF hate fest, picking up right where you left off. So yes, I think you are nurturing the same old 'vendetta' of which we've seen countless examples of in the past. Unfortunately.


I am, however, perceiving that you harbor some sort of vendetta against me, personally.

I don't know you personally.

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