Linked by ephracis on Mon 23rd Jan 2012 13:18 UTC
General Development This is a call out for help on creating a consistent and native feeling on Mac OS X and Linux. As I have never owned a Mac and haven't used Linux as my main OS for over 3 years I need the community of OSNews to help me do this.
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ephracis
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2007-09-23

Hi, I just tried Stoffi and really like it. Let me say that you guys are awesome at doing this!

Thanks! It's really fun when people enjoy the stuff I make. ;)

1. I notice that after you enter the "Preferences" Menu that you have to click on the "Back to music" menu on the side panel. Interestingly, I tried to search for back button, like in explorer (I think it's because you want to make it behave like windows, especially explorer, CMIIW). Then I realize that on the top panel is the music control. This feel really strange, as everywhere in explorer and other app (like Control Panel), the top panel is always for navigation.

I could add a back button at the top and try to make it blend in with the rest. It would make it easier to navigate, especially between Preferences and "normal". I will keep it in mind!

2. I think you need to move the music control and status to the bottom panel, while leaving the top panel for navigation and search. There's a detail of the song played in the bottom panel, but I think it's duplication because we already have the detail on the song list. That way, it's more consistent not only with Windows, but with other music players as well. Also see how explorer shows the detail of the drive selected when we highlight a drive on Computer. I think you need to show the detail of the song played for Stuffi to behave more like explorer.

Well the bottom pane is just like in Explorer. It's details about the stuff you have currently selected. In the stable version that is out right now we only show a single file. In alpha we have added the ability to see a summary of all selected tracks. I plan on adding details for when selecting a playlist, youtube or anything else in the left hand navigation tree.

So the bottom pane is actually supposed to be exactly the same as it is in Explorer. Which will make it hard to put the playback buttons and current playing song info there.

I guess I put playback at top because I had been a heavy user of Amarok before I went to Win7 and found myself missing a great music player. ;)

3. The close button on the top left of the application window is always highlighted Red in almost all native Windows application.

It's not? I just fired Stoffi up and the close button is red there as well. Unless the window loses focus, then it becomes transparent (just like minimize and maximize/restore), but that is consistent with all the other apps as well. In fact, I'm not touching those buttons, they are handled by .NET (and in extension by DWM I believe, someone could correct me on this).

4. The dividing line between the main panel and the left panel is too bold. See the following image:
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2835/stuffi.png

Good point. I have actually made it a bit broader as a temporary solution. Since if I make it thinner it will be hard to hit. It seems that I want a broad hit area and a thin line. But I have not yet figured out how to have the hit area differ from the painted line. But definitely something I should fix. ;)

5. In Windows, I believe that the mouse cursor will only change to "pointer" when we select the link. The play/pause, ff, rwd, shuffle, and random button should not change the mouse cursor shape when hovered. See also Windows Media Player on this. Another interesting note is that the name for the "pointer" cursor is "Link Select" (see the "Mouse" item on Control Panel).

I haven't thought of that. I will fix it in the next release. ;)

6. The links on the side bar, on the other hand, should change the mouse cursor to "pointer" when hovered.


Hope this helps. I really want to help out hacking the application, but for now I think I can't give you many help in that area.

I'll take any help I can get. There's always a need for anything from programming and design to translation and promotion. And my policy is that people work as much or as little they want, with what they want and for as long as they want, be it a day, a week or a year.

If you want to contribute you can send me a message. ;)

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bertzzie Member since:
2011-01-26


Well the bottom pane is just like in Explorer. It's details about the stuff you have currently selected. In the stable version that is out right now we only show a single file. In alpha we have added the ability to see a summary of all selected tracks. I plan on adding details for when selecting a playlist, youtube or anything else in the left hand navigation tree.

So the bottom pane is actually supposed to be exactly the same as it is in Explorer. Which will make it hard to put the playback buttons and current playing song info there.

I guess I put playback at top because I had been a heavy user of Amarok before I went to Win7 and found myself missing a great music player. ;)


I can see what you mean. But still a little inconsistency though, for example, when we select one song that's not playing and move to the "Now Playing" link, the bottom pane still details the selected music. Shouldn't it details the currently playing music?


It's not? I just fired Stoffi up and the close button is red there as well. Unless the window loses focus, then it becomes transparent (just like minimize and maximize/restore), but that is consistent with all the other apps as well. In fact, I'm not touching those buttons, they are handled by .NET (and in extension by DWM I believe, someone could correct me on this).


Well, my bad. I forgot that I just turned off focus follows mouse, so I didn't notice that the window is not active when I see it.


I'll take any help I can get. There's always a need for anything from programming and design to translation and promotion. And my policy is that people work as much or as little they want, with what they want and for as long as they want, be it a day, a week or a year.

If you want to contribute you can send me a message. ;)


For now I don't have the time, but I'll try to find some time to contribute, and then I'll contact you for sure. I'm looking forward for the time ;)

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