Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 7th Feb 2012 17:55 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y Let this be a lesson. After posts by John Gruber and Shawn King, this happened to Violet Blue. "The misinformation gave a significant number of people fuel to stalk me, attack me for hours at a time, malign, insult me in disgusting ways, threaten me with weapon-specific violent death (an axe), and lead social media attempts to force me to lose my job over the matter. Many referenced John Gruber, and/or his post as they did this. Plans were openly made to make media to attack me - another Angry Mac Bastards podcast." Disgusting story, and sadly enough, this isn't the first time this has happened, as Blue notes in her article. I don't like talking about these matters (you don't want to know the kind of crap that gets thrown my way at times), but I can assure you my inbox has seen its share of pure vitriol after Gruber links to an OSNews piece. It ain't pretty.
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RE: Any extremism is a problem.
by No it isnt on Tue 7th Feb 2012 18:25 UTC in reply to "Any extremism is a problem."
No it isnt
Member since:
2005-11-14

No, Apple fanboys are by far the worst. Fans of other products usually can accept that others have different needs; Apple fanboys want Apple in Microsoft's position. The reason why is, of course, that being heavily invested in Apple products makes it very expensive to switch, and also that being heavily invested in Apple products kinda sucks in a world dominated by others than Apple. The sectarianism is designed into the products.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

You just proved the point of Jaron Lanier, who I quoted.

people will congregate into partisan online bubbles in which their views are reinforced


Anyway, most of the people I know that own Apple products in IRL aren't apple fanbois.

They are usually Young professionals, that want nice things, I am the only "PC" guy in the office of 100 people and I am also the only one that knows how to use a *nix terminal (which makes be the alpha geek). Most of them buy apple products because they are "cool" or they want something to spend their XMAS bonus on as a treat.

Also, people don't by into Apple's products, they buy into why Apple make the products as they do. Watch the Simon Sinek Video I linked.

Edited 2012-02-07 18:34 UTC

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No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

No, my comment didn't confirm that. In fact, there's nothing in my comment to suggest I've congregated into a partisan bubble to reinforce my views. In fact, my dislike for Apple fanboys suggests I deal with them quite often, which in fact I do.

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Shkaba Member since:
2006-06-22

Anyway, most of the people I know that own Apple products in IRL aren't apple fanbois. They are usually Young professionals, that want nice things, I am the only "PC" guy in the office of 100 people and I am also the only one that knows how to use a *nix terminal (which makes be the alpha geek). Most of them buy apple products because they are "cool" or they want something to spend their XMAS bonus on as a treat.

I have different view of people that buy apple products:
- Spoiled kids who heard that iThings are the best
- Mediocre people who are desperate to get noticed, they keep flaunting their iThings and keep spreading iEvangelism
- An occasional normal/sane person who gets attracted by shiny design (btw this is the area where iThings are good at)
- A geek wannabe (I know one personaly)

---Back to topic---
This is not the first time that iFan sites have deliberately skewed the truth. It is the very definition of a fanboi not to care about facts or what the intended point was. If there is a chance that anything will effect public/online perception of anything i related, attacks will come in hard and en-masse.


***DISCLAIMER***
I do not claim to be objective as I have a deep dislike for Apple, which I consider one the most un-ethical corporations.

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darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

No, Apple fanboys are by far the worst. Fans of other products usually can accept that others have different needs; Apple fanboys want Apple in Microsoft's position. The reason why is, of course, that being heavily invested in Apple products makes it very expensive to switch, and also that being heavily invested in Apple products kinda sucks in a world dominated by others than Apple. The sectarianism is designed into the products.


I take it you haven't had to ever deal with the rabid Linux fanboys. They're just as bad and sometimes worse. We've got some of them on OSNews, just start criticizing Linux (not senselessly, but accurately) and you'll see them pop out of the woodwork. The GPL zealots are nasty too. It's unfortunate, but zealots exist in just about every category of life and I don't find even the worst tech fanboys to be as bad as, let's say, the religious fanatics who would happily kill me because my skin is the wrong color. It would be best, I think, if everyone involved in this whole thing would take a step back, have a beer and a smoke and calm the hell down. The tech fanboys (and fangirls) are just assholes, and there are people far worse than assholes out there.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

if everyone involved in this whole thing would take a step back, have a beer and a smoke and calm the hell down. The tech fanboys (and fangirls) are just assholes, and there are people far worse than assholes out there.


Internets+1

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WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

I take it you haven't had to ever deal with the rabid Linux fanboys.


As well as the Android crowd. I have a bunch of Android fanboi in my Google+ stream, and the daily barrage of anti-Apple shite that is posted gets super annoying. Please note that I am not accusing any one of these groups as being any worse than the other - they're equally as bad IMO, and actually do more to hurt their platform of choice than help.

Of course, it's just like politics - liberals vs conservatives, too many people screaming at each other instead of actually listening to each other, and it is never going to stop.

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foldingstock Member since:
2008-10-30

The tech fanboys (and fangirls) are just assholes, and there are people far worse than assholes out there.


Most tech people, even those in professional positions, also play with tech as a hobby. All hobbies have genuinely nice people just as they also have assholes. It is most noticeable with technology, imho, because the internet allows people to hide behind the safety of their internet connection.

There are assholes that hike, hunt, fish, bird watch, tinker with cars, etc. Most of them appear rather mild, though, because most people aren't going to start a huge debate that ends with them frothing at the mouth spewing personal threats in real life. It is simple to get carried away online, though, especially if the person typing is immature. There is also a problem with written communication lacking any sense of emphasis or tone, which can result in someone misunderstanding a point or taking offense to something that wasn't meant offensively, which makes the matter even worse.

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lucac81 Member since:
2007-09-13

The only problem is that they weren't talking about apple product, but a supposed third-party apple developer... that wasn't a developer at all.
Here it's only a matter of checking the reality before making claims...
like the author of the original article did...

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

like the author of the original article did...


...are you being ironic?

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