Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 7th Feb 2012 17:55 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y Let this be a lesson. After posts by John Gruber and Shawn King, this happened to Violet Blue. "The misinformation gave a significant number of people fuel to stalk me, attack me for hours at a time, malign, insult me in disgusting ways, threaten me with weapon-specific violent death (an axe), and lead social media attempts to force me to lose my job over the matter. Many referenced John Gruber, and/or his post as they did this. Plans were openly made to make media to attack me - another Angry Mac Bastards podcast." Disgusting story, and sadly enough, this isn't the first time this has happened, as Blue notes in her article. I don't like talking about these matters (you don't want to know the kind of crap that gets thrown my way at times), but I can assure you my inbox has seen its share of pure vitriol after Gruber links to an OSNews piece. It ain't pretty.
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RE: Any extremism is a problem.
by fran on Tue 7th Feb 2012 18:42 UTC in reply to "Any extremism is a problem."
fran
Member since:
2010-08-06

The problem is notoriously just as common in the Linux community. Probably worse because of Linux's humanitarian ideals.
A recent happening. The acrimony levelled against this journalist was especially bad. (See comment to the article)

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/diy-it/why-ive-finally-had-it-with-my-lin...

The journalist was severely lambasted.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/diy-it/mea-culpa-coming-clean-about-my-n0...

Even if the journalist was wrong the problem is how some people deal with criticism. Fanboyism take on some tribal barbarity and criticism is perceived as a personal affront. Football is probably the worse example.

Edited 2012-02-07 18:50 UTC

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Totally.

The problem is that any criticism of Linux is (however valid) is basically akin to insulting that persons mother. If you bring up the stable ABI/API issue, there are all sorts of excuses and the fabricated.

The problem that really frustrates me that because they won't take any criticism, they will never improve it.

The same is in the Gamer Community, the cycling community (some Mountain Bikers won't ever ride a road bike because it is almost a religious issue, I get called a lot of names because I ride a fixed occasionally, even though I been riding them since I was 14), I am sure there are other examples.

Edited 2012-02-07 18:57 UTC

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JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

The problem that really frustrates me that because they won't take any criticism, they will never improve it.

Problem there is that you equate developers with zealous fanbois.


You heathen! You ride a road bike?!?!?!?!?! Off with your head!

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andydread Member since:
2009-02-02

Totally.

The problem is that any criticism of Linux is (however valid) is basically akin to insulting that persons mother. If you bring up the stable ABI/API issue, there are all sorts of excuses and the fabricated.

The problem that really frustrates me that because they won't take any criticism, they will never improve it.

The same is in the Gamer Community, the cycling community (some Mountain Bikers won't ever ride a road bike because it is almost a religious issue, I get called a lot of names because I ride a fixed occasionally, even though I been riding them since I was 14), I am sure there are other examples.



You must have some powerful legs and tough as hell shin bones. I tried riding a friends fixed wheel with no brakes. never again. I leave that for the brave.

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Valhalla Member since:
2006-01-24


The problem is that any criticism of Linux is (however valid) is basically akin to insulting that persons mother. If you bring up the stable ABI/API issue, there are all sorts of excuses and the fabricated.

The problem that really frustrates me that because they won't take any criticism, they will never improve it.

Ah, you're singling out of Linux, how surprising.

Of course the truth is that there's the diehard fans in all these camps, Linux, BSD, Apple, Microsoft, they may be disproportional to their user numbers, for instance I think their are much less percentages of Windows users who are diehard fans then there are of operating system with much smaller userbases like Linux, BSD and OSX, but they do exist which you are ample proof of.

And just as diehard fans of any other OS/vendor, you will jump in and defend Microsoft in just about every situation and not accept criticism.

The reason why I think there are lesser (proportionally) diehard fans of Microsoft is because with the other OS'es the users actively seek them out (as in consciously choosing them) rather than having it come as a standard part of their computer purchase.

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