Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 12th Feb 2012 23:23 UTC
Gnome "One of the things that the GNOME design crew have been focusing on recently is creating a new approach to application design for GNOME 3. We want GNOME applications to be thoroughly modern, and we want them to be attractive and a delight to use. That means that we have to do application design differently to how we've done it in the past."
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RE[2]: Wtf?
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 13th Feb 2012 01:17 UTC in reply to "RE: Wtf?"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29



I completely agree with you. However I don't understand why you love the metro interface, which wastes an attrocious amount of space in the name of style, on a device where space is at much more of a premium.

http://i.imgur.com/5Ajzx.png
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Mobile vs. desktop. Metro on Windows 8 is just as idiotic.

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RE[3]: Wtf?
by mkone on Mon 13th Feb 2012 13:22 in reply to "RE[2]: Wtf?"
mkone Member since:
2006-03-14

This sounds like you are being an apologist.

So it is OK to waste space on a smaller screen because it's for a mobile application. Absurd. Space is at a premium on a small screen. You should make screen elements larger rather than use a lot of space up with superfluous text.

Compare the iPhone's music app and WIndows Phone's. On the iPhone, all of the screen estate is used for user interface elements.

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RE[4]: Wtf?
by jptros on Mon 13th Feb 2012 14:43 in reply to "RE[3]: Wtf?"
jptros Member since:
2005-08-26

The screen elements on my desktop computer don't need to be larger. I bought a high resolution display so I could fit more on my screen, not watch it all disappear because someone thinks we need the same big buttons designed for fat fingers staring me in the face while I'm sitting at my desk working. My mouse zero's in on small elements just fine, not so much for my finger tips that need a larger target.

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RE[3]: Wtf?
by sj87 on Mon 13th Feb 2012 20:07 in reply to "RE[2]: Wtf?"
sj87 Member since:
2007-12-16

So you want this instead?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4P0mnCI9c8M/Sw3W9q9n45I/AAAAAAAAB84/n5xXc...

It's not about the amount of empty space in the UI, nor is it about the amount of controls in the UI. It's about having the functionality one needs at hand in an interface that is intuitive and fast to use.

I am a Qt programmer and yet I have ditched KDE in favour of Gnome 3. I've been there eversince the first release and all the time it just gets better and better. Still I have hated Rhythmbox for years for being so bloated in the UI. The new mockup of Gnome music player is much better albeit only showing a single very restricted view instead of the "collection view".

Edited 2012-02-13 20:11 UTC

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RE[4]: Wtf?
by ndrw on Tue 14th Feb 2012 03:17 in reply to "RE[3]: Wtf?"
ndrw Member since:
2009-06-30

I'm not an airplane pilot so I don't need that many controls and displays.

But I want my system to provide me all the vital information and knobs as readily as the airplane "UI" does. Not (much) more and (definitely) not less. Btw, "readily" means here "visible on the screen at all times and accessible with minimum effort".

Perhaps the confusion of Gnome3 designers arrived from a deep misunderstanding of what these "vital" tasks are. They are assuming we are all reading facebook or are dancing to the music. That's perhaps true for iP*d users but it simply isn't the case for PC users (surprise: we sometimes use PCs for work).

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