Linked by David Adams on Thu 1st Mar 2012 22:39 UTC, submitted by Fabrice Mous
GNU, GPL, Open Source The Dutch LinuxMagazine translated an interview (direct PDF link) from their magazine with Gianugo Rabellino, Senior Director Open Source Communities at Microsoft into English. Many of your readers are probably wondering, is Microsoft really involved in open source these days, or is there more to it? Fabrice Mous started his conversation with Mr. Rabellino to get to know him better, but also to ask him some pressing questions about Microsoft's policies towards open source and open standards. It turned out to be an interesting, but certainly quite critical conversation, that will probably lead to some discussion.

We would very much like to hear your opinion on the open source policy of Microsoft.

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RE[2]: free Visual studio
by fran on Fri 2nd Mar 2012 03:11 UTC in reply to "RE: free Visual studio"
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"I know there is a free crippled version but Microsoft should make the full feature versions of Visual Studio free.
Apple understand this, and don't charge you for theirs.
This will encourage more people to become involved in .net open source projects.

Visual Studio Express is not crippled, you can write any type of program you want, you have full access to the full .net framework. What you lose is integration, each language (, c#, c++, as well as Web Developer) has it's own express edition, and there are no team functionality. The db management functionality (the IDE, not access from code), is limited, but there is an express edition of SQL Server, and it has a management console. Any apps you write can run on any Windows computer.

They also release the c# framework that lets you write games for the 360 and the Zune(I know, I know) It's called XNA Studio. It costs money to distribute on Live, but the tools are free.

Don't you think Teamview will be beneficial to open source development? This is what the article is about. Opinions on how MS can improve it's open source policy.
Now the votetards vote me down for saying Visual Studio should be free.

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RE[3]: free Visual studio
by BluenoseJake on Fri 2nd Mar 2012 05:28 in reply to "RE[2]: free Visual studio"
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It would be beneficial, but that's not the same as necessary. It doesn't make the express editions crippled with out them. You could use 3rd party team software, or build your own, buy an msdn sub for $350

They don't have to give away everything, and MS, they give away quite a bit. At least when it comes to Dev tools.

Edited 2012-03-02 05:30 UTC

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RE[4]: free Visual studio
by fran on Fri 2nd Mar 2012 09:51 in reply to "RE[3]: free Visual studio"
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RE[4]: free Visual studio
by Powelly on Fri 2nd Mar 2012 10:01 in reply to "RE[3]: free Visual studio"
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The Express version of Visual Studio doesn't support viewing the currently running threads in the debugger.
As detailed here:

That makes it virtually impossible to debug modern multi-threaded applications, and therefore it is most definitely crippled.

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