Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 6th Mar 2012 23:27 UTC
Windows As you may have seen, David's been taking care of OSNews for a few days because I'm quite busy with work. Still, there's one thing I'd like to talk about: the desktop mode in Windows 8. I wish I could've added this to the first impressions article, but I only arrived at this conclusion yesterday: desktop mode in Windows 8 is Microsoft's equivalent of Mac OS X's Classic mode.
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RE: Start menu
by Alfman on Wed 7th Mar 2012 17:49 UTC in reply to "Start menu"
Alfman
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2011-01-28

sphere2k,

"Switching back and forth between classic desktop and Metro all the time is simply ridiculous. I hope they realise that in time."

MS know this too, and though this might sound silly, part of their goal is to make the traditional desktop as annoying to use as possible to convert people to metro. The windows desktop has a long term marketing problem in that it forces microsoft to compete with it's older windows versions. The more mature and "rounded" multiwindow interfaces have become, the less MS can justify making people upgrade to new "better" versions every 3 years when by far and large the previous versions would work just great with bug fixes. It's already apparent that people are holding back in droves.

So, microsoft's top brass came up with a plan to kill the desktop, and generate longer term review streams. What they came up with is metro, and what will become an app store with exclusive distribution rights so microsoft can take a cut of 3rd party software instead of being so dependent upon "upgrades". Of course they want to make metro good, but they also need to make the desktop bad, which is fairly apparent with these win8 previews. Many people are aghast at how poorly the integration is taking shape in the previews, but it's likely a deliberate strategy rather than an accident.

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RE[2]: Start menu
by Anonymous Penguin on Wed 7th Mar 2012 18:35 in reply to "RE: Start menu"
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2005-07-06

Very good analysis.
We OS X users are lucky, in a sense. Apple makes its money from hardware and gadgets, so it can't afford to disappoint its users with a poor OS.
If only they could sell their computers at more reasonable prices, MS would lose a very large share of their users in no time.

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RE[3]: Start menu
by ilovebeer on Wed 7th Mar 2012 18:59 in reply to "RE[2]: Start menu"
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2011-08-08

Very good analysis.
We OS X users are lucky, in a sense. Apple makes its money from hardware and gadgets, so it can't afford to disappoint its users with a poor OS.
If only they could sell their computers at more reasonable prices, MS would lose a very large share of their users in no time.

I completely disagree. I have yet to see a long line of Windows users saying they would switch were Apple to offer their stuff at better prices. My observation is that Windows users by and large know how to use it, are content, and not interested in having to learn a new system.

That being said, I think you have a case of Apple-user-wishful-thinking. ;)

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RE[3]: Start menu
by Alfman on Wed 7th Mar 2012 19:57 in reply to "RE[2]: Start menu"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Anonymous Penguin,

"If only they could sell their computers at more reasonable prices, MS would lose a very large share of their users in no time."

Yep, clearly more people would buy apple at a lower price point. I think the key question is whether the additional market size makes up for a lower unit price. It'd be interesting to see a market breakdown analysis. Maybe apple enjoys being priced for "exclusivity"?

For me personally, I prefer to build my own systems using my choice of hardware, so there's zero chance of my getting a Mac. But if OSX were sold unbundled, I'd probably pick up a copy and even start writing software for it (as long as the platform remains genuinely unrestricted).

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