Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 28th Mar 2012 22:29 UTC
Games The rumour mill for the next generation of video game consoles has been churning out some juicy stuff these past few months. While Nintendo has laid most of its cards out on the table, Microsoft and Sony have remained tight-lipped, probably because their consoles are still seeing increased sales. So, we have to rely on rumours, and those rumours have one thing in common: Microsoft and Sony want to eliminate the used games market.
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bassbeast
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2007-11-11

Actually I'd say Urban terror is exactly what is WRONG with indie games and here is why: What is it? yet another Q3 Arena clone. Now compare it to MW3 or Call Of Duty or even Far Cry I from 2003...see the difference?

The problem with indie games in a nutshell is unless its a little popcap or humble bundle style game what you end up with is "itch scratching" and ripping off the same old tired ideas over and over and OVER because its easy. its simply easier to just make another Q3 Arena clone that it is to make a game with good story, excellent characters, decent acting, etc. the simple fact is there is a VERY small niche for the whole "chicken with its head cut off" throwing crap at each other MP only game and most of those players are in the latest Call of Dooky MP or playing TF2 for free.

So while I wish the indies nothing but luck ripping off Q3 Arena AGAIN simply isn't gonna set the world on fire, nobody is gonna go "Oh but YOUR ripoff of Q3 Arena is just so much more special than the 40 other Q3 Arena ripoffs" and suddenly make it take off. Do something different, something new, hell make it funny like No One Lives forever or crazy like Postal II, SOMETHING besides yet another MP only Q3 Arena clone.

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

its simply easier to just make another Q3 Arena clone that it is to make a game with good story, excellent characters, decent acting, etc.


Heh, that's exactly my feeling. Every time I download a oss FPS it's the same tired multiplayer arene game. It might look good and run smooth but that's of little consolation. Sure, MP is fun but some of us enjoy games with a good singleplayer campaign and don't want to spend every waking hour on an MP server.

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Darkmage Member since:
2006-10-20

What about Wing Commander Saga: Darkest Dawn? it's very impressive for a fan project. It'd be nice if some more work was put into open content for Freespace 2 since the engine itself has a ton of enhancements and has aged well.

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Dr.Mabuse Member since:
2009-05-19

Now compare it to MW3 or Call Of Duty or even Far Cry I from 2003...see the difference?


I do see the difference - they are worth playing for a few of hours and then they are a throw away item (hence the used game market.)

The irony of your argument is astounding. The big-name outfits have been rehashing the same ideas for years man! And you can bet they don't all use their own bespoke game engine either.

To just lump UrT into the "another Q3 rip-off" is doing it an extreme injustice. UrT doesn't play like anything else and it has fantastic replay value.

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bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

Dude its very first page says, and I quote " that (thanks to the ioquake3-code) does not require Quake III Arena anymore". Delude yourself all you want, its yet another Q3 Arena DM snoozefest. If running like a chicken with your head cut off is all you need to be entertained? then i'm happy for you, but you are gonna be awful lonely as most of those players are either in TF2 or the latest Call of Dooky.

Again its like saying Tux Racer is gonna take on Gran Turismo, its not even funny, its just sad. Its built off of VERY old code with an even older engine, it looks awful, and it offers absolutely nothing over Cube and a bazillion other Q3 Arena DM crap. let me guess, without even looking at the page, its DM, CTF, and a few team modes, yes? Wow, how did I know that? Because its the exact same thing the OSS world has been rehashing since the Q3 code was donated. I'm sure when their latest engine is released to the OSS community we'll see a bazillion DM/CTF games released using it too, same old same old.

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