Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 3rd Jun 2012 22:04 UTC
Windows So, I've been using the Windows 8 Release Preview since it came out, almost exclusively (except for work, since I'm obviously not going to rely on unfinished and untested software for that). I already knew I could get into Metro on my 11.6" ZenBook, but on my 24" desktop, things aren't looking as rosy. Here's an illustrated guide of the most pressing issues I run into, and five suggestions to address them. Instead of just complaining, let's get constructive.
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RE[7]: Unaddressed
by OMRebel on Wed 6th Jun 2012 17:28 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Unaddressed"
OMRebel
Member since:
2005-11-14

The UI in VS2012 RC is nothing like you describe. Might help to try it out.


Not bland and blended together?

This:
http://www.c-sharpcorner.com/UploadFile/592808/install-visual-studi...

And the stupid, stupid, stupid CAPITALIZATION of the menus:
http://www.c-sharpcorner.com/UploadFile/592808/install-visual-studi...

Crappy:
http://freshbrewedcode.com/danmohl/files/2012/06/FsCsMvc4VS21012RC....

My point still stands. Horrible UI that is counter-productive for developers.

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RE[8]: Unaddressed
by hoak on Wed 6th Jun 2012 19:23 in reply to "RE[7]: Unaddressed"
hoak Member since:
2007-12-17

Nelson can't hear you (or apprehend facts) over the sound of how great his voice is...

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RE[8]: Unaddressed
by Nelson on Wed 6th Jun 2012 19:48 in reply to "RE[7]: Unaddressed"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

The UI in VS2012 RC is nothing like you describe. Might help to try it out.


Not bland and blended together?
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http://blogs.msdn.com/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/communityserver...

There is clear contrast here

http://blogs.msdn.com/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/communityserver...

and there.

True, it's not a gradient fest, and the colors are a little more subtle, but it is hardly horrendous, and I personally prefer it to VS2010.

The icons have subtle colorization which works better to indicate purpose. Green being the signature color for C# for example. It makes them MORE distinctive than the sea of colored faux 3D icons that VS2010 had.


And the stupid, stupid, stupid CAPITALIZATION of the menus:


The capitalization will be a settings toggle at RTM, if you really can't stand it.

Crappy:
http://freshbrewedcode.com/danmohl/files/2012/06/FsCsMvc4VS21012RC....


My point still stands. Horrible UI that is counter-productive for developers.


Maybe you don't like it, but I think it's a leap to say it's "counter-productive" for developers.

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RE[9]: Unaddressed
by OMRebel on Wed 6th Jun 2012 21:15 in reply to "RE[8]: Unaddressed"
OMRebel Member since:
2005-11-14

@Nelson

I think we shall just agree to disagree on this one. From my viewpoint (and I think this is where the difference comes into play) is based on the following two key issues:

1. IT IS COMMONLY ACCEPTED AMONG PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE THAT WORDS IN ALL CAPITALIZED LETTERS MAKE READING MORE DIFFICULT. THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO PLACE EMPHASIS ON WORDS RATHER THAN RESORTING TO SOMETHING THAT TRULY IS A "NO NO" TO DO IN DESIGN. I AM GLAD THAT THE OPTION IS THERE TO TOGGLE THE CAPITALIZATION IN ORDER TO TURN IT OFF - because that simply makes it easier to read and isn't such a sore site for the eyes. Yet, for MS to default the setting to all caps is rather absurd to be honest.

2. If you look at the top of the menu (and pretty much in other areas of the UI), it's all blended together. Now, I am assuming there will be the possibility to add themes and such. But, as it stands by default, it's really bland and depressing to look at.

I asked my coworkers (who are developers as well) their thoughts without letting them know my impression, and every single one had the same opinion as I did. Now, I am assuming MS did what they did due to a move to changing the UI to be more in line with Metro - which is a mistake. As a developer, I won't use Metro. On my two screens here at work, I have VS2010 open on one screen, and multiple windows opened on another. Keep in mind, not all shops are writing strictly ASP.NET applications and such. Many are still using Winforms, WPFs, etc.... With some of our applications, it's important that I am able to have a DOS window open, an explorer window, and usually examining some text files as well (I know, legacy products suck - but gotta pay the bills!).

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