Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th Jun 2012 23:34 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Bloomberg: "Microsoft, which has tightly controlled the number of ARM-based devices it is supporting at first to ensure quality, opted not to work with HTC after initial discussions with the company, said two people familiar with the matter. The world's largest software maker decided HTC didn't have the sales volume needed and had less tablet experience than some of the other vendors it could choose to work with for the first round of devices, the people said." HTC was the first company to build a Microsoft-powered smartphone. Now, they're not allowed to build Windows 8 tablets.
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Flatland_Spider
Member since:
2006-09-01

My wife has the same amazing ability to kill Android phones, which is unfortunate since she relies heavily on her phone to do her job.

We both had Samsung Captivates with the stock ROM, and after a couple months stuff started crashing. I switch us to the Miui.us ROM, and after a couple of months the force closes started again. We switch phones, and same results. Although the last time was because of the Spotify app.

After the last episode, I bought her a Galaxy Nexus hoping it's a software problem caused by Samsung. The next step for her is an iPhone 5, whenever that is released, if the Nexus starts crashing.

The most aggravating thing is how hard Android phones are to fix. My wife had problems with her Blackberries, but they were at least easy to backup and reinstall.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

Look into Wug's Root Toolkit.

http://www.galaxynexusforum.com/forum/galaxy-nexus-hacking-mods-lte...

You may not want to unlock/root the device for your wife but look at the backup function. It will backup apps *and* app data. Backups can be taken even from an encrypted device. Backup files will be encrypted. Restoring the backup to the device after a reset or firmware update is painless.

(ha.. nice.. v1.4 is out.. gotta got update my own install)

I've found the built-in Android backup function handy. It covers OS settings, Google apps and related data. I've found it covers most third party apps but I've had a few restored naked leaving me to repopulate them.

I've also tried the various backup apps (all want to backup to an SD which is no good with the Nexus lacking a removable SD slot). They also tend to only backup the apps not the app data so they rank somewhere around useless for me.

Wug's does it right though. Apps and app data from encrypted or unencrypted device with backup file encrypted and stored on your computer not the Android devices own storage.

If your wife experiences software issues fixed in a later version of Android, you can also upgrade the device from Google's official firmware rather than waiting for your carrier to maybe eventually push ICS 4.0.4 or whatever is current by then. (A big fat WTF to my carrier for still not having pushed the 4.0.4 out for stock devices.. what the hell Rogers?)

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Bounty Member since:
2006-09-18

I've never had a crash on my HTC Incredible. If I had to guess some of you are "power users" installing a bunch of (interesting) apps that tend to mess with your phone environment.

You may have less crashes in more tightly controlled environments (iPhone) or envirnments with less (interesting) apps (Windows mobile).

I'm not saying this is certainly the case, but it's a guess as to why Android has been less than stable for some.

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tanzam75 Member since:
2011-05-19


You may have less crashes in more tightly controlled environments (iPhone) or envirnments with less (interesting) apps (Windows mobile).


On the contrary, Windows Mobile was very easy to kill. I had an HTC Windows Mobile phone that would freeze up multiple times a day. Even doing a hard reset wouldn't solve it. Finally, I read up on the XDA forums and did a hard reset -- but also skipped the carrier customizations. That left it in a state in which it was running only stock Microsoft code + drivers, the thing would stay up for a month.

That was when I concluded Windows Mobile had no future. Having OEMs preload craplets on Windows PCs is bad enough -- but doing the same thing on a phone, and preventing me from receiving calls? I simply don't have time to baby my phone like I do my computer.

And that was only the carrier preloads! I didn't install anything else on that phone!

Or perhaps you meant Windows Phone. That falls into the iOS category of "tightly controlled."

Edited 2012-06-07 19:18 UTC

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Flatland_Spider Member since:
2006-09-01

I haven't had a crash on the Samsung Captivate either. It was just my wife and her Captivate.

At least the iPhone I have for work can be easily backed up to iTunes or iCloud, so if I have to wipe it it's not as much of a chore to get my data and apps back.

To be quite honest, if a single, non-malicious app can render an OS completely useless, in this case Spotify, then the OS has problems. I can understand the app being crap, but that's no excuse for taking down every other app on the phone.

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jnemesh Member since:
2008-04-08

Androids are easy to fix, ESPECIALLY the Nexus models! You really can't blame anyone for the crashes when you were running MIUI...custom ROMs are prone to crashing...if you want stability, use a stock ROM!

Avoid "free" apps as well. Even the good ones drain battery life to feed you ads to "pay" for the app! Spend the $2-$5 for the app...it's not going to kill your wallet and your phone will thank you! Also, "free" apps are the major source of malware. ONLY buy from trusted developers and PAY ATTENTION to the permissions you grant your apps!

If you keep your phone free of "crapps", you shouldn't have any problems with your wife's Nexus.

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Flatland_Spider Member since:
2006-09-01

The problems started while she was running the stock ROM.

How is Android easy to fix? I'd really like to know. I'd like to be able to fix it without resorting to wiping the phone every time.

Yeah, apps are probably the problem. The last episode of crashes started when she downloaded Spotify.

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

The answer shouldn't be "avoid this" and "avoid that" the platform should protect the end user from such problems.

Besides, how many people genuinely get to run a stock AOSP ROM? The majority of phones sold have that TouchWiz bullshit or that Sense crap splattered all over it.

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