Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th Jun 2012 10:12 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Only a few more hours until the last of the big three has its big event (Google i/o, after WWDC and Microsoft's Surface and WP8 events). They will most likely announce a Nexus tablet, as well as Android 4.1, Jelly Bean. While many of you are still on Gingerbread with your top-of-the-line phones - let me poke a few eyes out with mikegapinski's Android 4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich port... To the Samsung Wave. Dual-booting Bada 2 and ICS, right here.
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RE: Comment by avgalen
by phoudoin on Wed 27th Jun 2012 12:23 UTC in reply to "Comment by avgalen"
phoudoin
Member since:
2006-06-09

This is nothing more than a hobby project. Impressive, cool, but unusable for daily use


Same was true for Linux, Apache, Python and so many open source projects.
And yet, they eventually becomes very usable for daily use, as testified by millions of Internet servers, or smartphones or the billions of web pages served by Apache every day.

Unusable is the initial step of any project, open or closed.
Get over it.

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RE[2]: Comment by avgalen
by avgalen on Wed 27th Jun 2012 12:44 in reply to "RE: Comment by avgalen"
avgalen Member since:
2010-09-23

I completely agree. These are actually all great examples of "what openness looks like" and they have changed the (software)world.

I am not complaining about this project. It is a nice hobby-project that some people will learn a lot from and that will give some other people a good time playing around with another OS.

I am complaining about picking this as an example of what openness looks like. Because if we would show people this example they would all turn their back on openness and say "closed gives us working stuff, open is far inferior".

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RE[3]: Comment by avgalen
by MOS6510 on Wed 27th Jun 2012 13:46 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by avgalen"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

And I agree even more completely.

The average customer will start to associate "open" with "not working". Right now they think "open" means "you can install stuff without paying for it, hahaha".

And if non-working stuff like this gets praised people might even believe that this result is like reaching the top of Mount Everest: that's it, it can't get any better.

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RE[3]: Comment by avgalen
by phoudoin on Wed 27th Jun 2012 16:12 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by avgalen"
phoudoin Member since:
2006-06-09

they would all turn their back on openness and say "closed gives us working stuff, open is far inferior".


Well, in this exact situation, it's more "for my Samsung Wave, open gives me hope that non-working-yet new stuff could works someday, while closed wont gives new stuff *ever*."

And I'm not sure that cast such negative light on the open side, really.
There is no shame to say "not working yet". What's a shame is to lie. And it's far easier to do when nobody but you can looks at internals to figure out himself...

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RE[2]: Comment by avgalen
by lucas_maximus on Thu 28th Jun 2012 12:27 in reply to "RE: Comment by avgalen"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Sorry, If I release software, open, closed, for fun or for project, I will make sure it damn well works.

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RE[3]: Comment by avgalen
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 28th Jun 2012 13:11 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by avgalen"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Sorry, If I release software, open, closed, for fun or for project, I will make sure it damn well works.


It does work. Just not every feature. That's how open source works - even at your pet company.

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