Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th Jun 2012 20:27 UTC
Google So yeah, Google totally just won the conference showdown by easily beating both Apple and Microsoft. Not only did Google announce Android 4.1 with some really cool new features, a cheap but non-crippled tablet, and a new Android device called the Nexus Q, but they also opened up pre-orders for Google Glass. So yeah.
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RE[5]: Seriously?
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 28th Jun 2012 09:36 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Seriously?"
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2005-06-29

to question Thom for claiming this is more significant than Apple/MS events.


Apple: minor hardware updates+one big one, and iOS6 playing catch-up (to come in the Fall).

Microsoft: vapourware tablet nobody has seen in action, and Windows Phone 8 nobody will be able to use until they buy new hardware somewhere in the Fall.

Google: minor Android update with still some major new stuff (available in two weeks+now for attendees), new non-crippled tablet for *$199* (available in two weeks+now for attendees), new streaming device (available in two weeks (?)), and, oh, they're putting Glass up for pre-order.

Easy enough to see who won.

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RE[6]: Seriously?
by Nelson on Thu 28th Jun 2012 09:52 in reply to "RE[5]: Seriously?"
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2005-11-29


Apple: minor hardware updates+one big one, and iOS6 playing catch-up (to come in the Fall).


Oh come on, iOS is an absolutely massive upgrade compared to Android 4.1. Try to be objective.


Microsoft: vapourware tablet nobody has seen in action, and Windows Phone 8 nobody will be able to use until they buy new hardware somewhere in the Fall.


You disregard the entire Windows 8 OEM Computex showing, the Windows Azure redesign offering IaaS, and the Yammer acquisition for enterprise.

WP8 is definitely not vaporware, its just not out yet. It was shown running on devices in its entiriety. You have a confident release window, a feature set shown off in depth, etc

Same with Surface. Most journalists didn't get time on with Surface, but some did. Its more vapory than WP8 but I feel it has its feature set detailed and carved out.

The difference with Project Glass is that at first it was an augmented reality device which was really revolutionary. Now its a head mounted camera, with question mark specs, which may come out next year as a shadow of its former self. Oh, and its $1500 and only available to I/O attendees meaning General Availability is even further out.

Surface, Windows 8, and Windows Phone 8 will be out before the first Project Glass pre order is shipped.


Google: minor Android update with still some major new stuff (available in two weeks+now for attendees), new non-crippled tablet for *$199* (available in two weeks+now for attendees), new streaming device (available in two weeks (?)), and, oh, they're putting Glass up for pre-order.

Easy enough to see who won.


Major new stuff? That's a fucking stretch, considering how you just downplayed iOS6.

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RE[7]: Seriously?
by Morgan on Thu 28th Jun 2012 10:34 in reply to "RE[6]: Seriously?"
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2005-06-29

The difference with Project Glass is that at first it was an augmented reality device which was really revolutionary. Now its a head mounted camera, with question mark specs, which may come out next year as a shadow of its former self. Oh, and its $1500 and only available to I/O attendees meaning General Availability is even further out.


That's my biggest problem with Project Glass; they sold us on such an amazing concept, teased us with "it will be in testing next year" and now we find it's a webcam -- a very nice looking one, but still a webcam -- that will cost as much as three of the phones required to use it. Granted, that's a developer special price, but come on! I can build what they demoed with parts lying around my workshop.

I'm really glad Google is serious about bringing Glass to fruition, but they are years away from having The Real Thing if this is all they have right now. Then on top of that, to charge an insane amount of money for a single-function prototype sounds really fishy. Surely Google has the R&D budget already in place for this project, and a few hundred units at $1500 each is probably a fraction of that budget. So why the ridiculous price tag on something that's not even as advanced as a Kinect?

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RE[7]: Seriously?
by JAlexoid on Thu 28th Jun 2012 11:07 in reply to "RE[6]: Seriously?"
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2009-05-19

Oh come on, iOS is an absolutely massive upgrade compared to Android 4.1. Try to be objective.

Sorry, but if we compare it in the context of competition it is not a major update. If we take it in a vacuum - yes it's a major step for iOS.(Though iOS 5 was a bigger step forward) Is that objective enough?

Same with Surface. Most journalists didn't get time on with Surface, but some did. Its more vapory than WP8 but I feel it has its feature set detailed and carved out.

Compared to how Google Glass is presented, that you call vapourware, no one did have any time with Surface. Even Joshua Topolsky is saying that the "handlers" were yanking the devices out of journalists hands if they tried to actually use it.

And as I said before - you really have an issue with Android. Considering how much swearwords you use.

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RE[7]: Seriously?
by dsmogor on Thu 28th Jun 2012 13:37 in reply to "RE[6]: Seriously?"
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2005-09-01

For me the Glass was more of projecting contextual info and making it more integrated than AR. Something for making Localization Services central to the experience.

And that is wholly dependent on whether you can put that information on the first place, Google is the company that can most probably pull that off (imagine if they teamed up with Nokia on this, that would be match made in heaven), but I presume it will be US only for long time after introduction.

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RE[6]: Seriously?
by MollyC on Fri 29th Jun 2012 04:50 in reply to "RE[5]: Seriously?"
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2006-07-04

Personally, I don't think something can be considered "vaporware" the very day that it's announced, or else the term has almost no meaning. Let a product miss a few ship dates first. ;)

Edited 2012-06-29 05:02 UTC

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RE[7]: Seriously?
by JAlexoid on Sat 30th Jun 2012 10:26 in reply to "RE[6]: Seriously?"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

So... Surface will never qualify as a vapour just because it has no ship date?!?!?!

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