Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 2nd Jul 2012 22:17 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Nokia board chairman Risto Siilasmaa went on a Finnish television show, and stated that while he is confident in Windows Phone 8, the company does have a back-up plan if it doesn't work out. Speculation aplenty - what is this backup plan? The answer's pretty easy, if you ask me.
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RE[4]: Yes please
by plague on Tue 3rd Jul 2012 13:27 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Yes please"
plague
Member since:
2006-05-08

Yeah, I know..
But noone (read: the global general public) knows what Tizen, or even Bada, is. If even Windows Phone won't sell, despite having a very very familiar name and logo, how do you expect Tizen would stand a chance?
There aren't more apps for Bada then there are for WP7, so beeing able to run Bada apps is not good enough for Tizen to be able to succeed.. Hell, even if Tizen ran Android apps it wouldn't be enough. Joe User simply doesn't care about some new OS he's never heard of. iPhone or Android, that's what Joe User knows and wants. Without Joe User, there simply won't be any significant marketshare.

Don't get me wrong, I really want Tizen to succeed, but I highly doubt it will.

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RE[5]: Yes please
by Lennie on Tue 3rd Jul 2012 13:49 in reply to "RE[4]: Yes please"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

On the name issue:

Tizen will probably marketed as Bada 3.0, which means it is will be a name people recognize.

I have no idea how Tizen will do in the market though.

But why do you think Mozilla called their Boot2Gecko project: Firefox OS

(almost ?) 500 million already are Firefox users, that is why. That is a lot more than Windows Phone users.

By some numbers Windows Phone's on Nokia Lumia sold even less than the Nokia N9 with MeeGo. Which is mostly the same phone.

Windows Phone has also been sold less than Bada:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/microsoftpri0/2018219341_wind...

Anyway, my real point was. Windows Phone does not sell on cheap smart phones. An alternative can probably only get a good market share if they start at the bottom. You can only start at the top (like Apple did with they introduced the iPhone) if you have something which people consider new. Like smartphones with touchscreen, which was pretty much new then.

It seems the feature phone market of Nokia isn't completely dead either, but it will be dead on a little over a year. Judging by the numbers above.

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RE[6]: Yes please
by plague on Tue 3rd Jul 2012 14:41 in reply to "RE[5]: Yes please"
plague Member since:
2006-05-08

Yea, I know MeeGo on N9 sold relatively well..
It's a damn shame they put a bullet in it's back.

I'm not sure what I think about all these new mobile OS's with a webrenderer as frontend, might be a good idea, might not.

I don't really get why the devs can't seem to decide where they want to go with their mobile Linux-based OS. Tizen is the fourth attempt in a short amount of time.

With Maemo, Moblin and MeeGo, the selling points included beeing able to run some desktop Linux applications, as they used GTK or QT.
With using a webrenderer for the frontend, like Gecko or WebKit, that goes away. Or atleast that's my understanding.

Time will tell if it turns out to be a good idea or not, but I'm sceptical.

Hopefully you're right about Bada beeing the end-product from the Tizen project and it turns out well.
Samsung might pull that off. We'll see.

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