Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Jul 2012 21:12 UTC
Windows The moment Microsoft announced it would lock other browsers out of being installed on Windows RT, we all knew regulatory bodies the world over were wringing their hands. Today, this has been confirmed: in the wake of an investigation into Microsoft not complying with the existing antitrust rulings regarding browser choice, the EU has also announced it's investigating Windows 8 x86 and Windows 8 RT (ARM).
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RE[8]: Comment by Drumhellar
by TechGeek on Fri 20th Jul 2012 02:48 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by Drumhellar"
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2006-01-14

Oh please.
The ARM UEFI specs aren't relevant.
Android tablets are still going to be produced by those OEMs. What do the UEFI specs of WindowsRT ARM devices have to do with Adroid ARM devices? Nothing.

And if you want to boot linux or BSD or Solaris or whatever random OS on an ARM device, but you can't do it on a Windows RT device because of UEFI, then just get an Android or ChromeOS ARM device and install your random OS on that.

WindowsRT ARM decices are complete solutions. They are complete integrated hardware/software devices. They are not meant to be able to run random OSes, just like the iPad isn't meant to run random OSes. Such devices run with the OS they come with, because the OS is part and parcel of the device as a complete integrated hardware/software solution. You don't like it? Then get different ARM device; they'll be plenty available for you to play with.


With all due respect, they are not complete devices. Apple sells a complete device. They engineer it, they build it, they load iOS on it. They control everything from the silicon up. Windows RT device are different. They are not designed nor built by Microsoft. Microsoft, other than the uEFI part, does not dictate what hardware goes into the device. Nor does Microsoft control pricing or distribution of the devices. No, Windows RT devices are more like common PC devices. And since its the same OEMs, this represents a problem. We know for a fact that the margins for PC makers is razor thin. As such, Microsoft has the power, through pricing of both WIndows RT and Windows 8, to greatly affect the livelihood of the OEMs. That is why there needs to be oversight.

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RE[9]: Comment by Drumhellar
by tomcat on Fri 20th Jul 2012 04:15 in reply to "RE[8]: Comment by Drumhellar"
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2006-01-06

With all due respect, they are not complete devices. Apple sells a complete device. They engineer it, they build it, they load iOS on it. They control everything from the silicon up. Windows RT device are different. They are not designed nor built by Microsoft.


Actually, that's bullshit. The requirements for offering a Windows RT-based device are very exacting and overseen by Microsoft. An OEM can't just slap together a machine like they do with x86, and ship it. The logo process is far more stringent and doesn't allow crapware to be loaded.

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