Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 21st Jul 2012 23:06 UTC
In the News Okay, so this is entirely new to me. Sparrow is was an email client for Mac OS X and iOS (and Windows), which brought a decent Gmail experience to these platforms - as opposed to Apple's own not-so-good Gmail support and Google's Gmail iOS application which, well, is just a webpage. Google has now acquired Sparrow, and basically all hell has broken loose, to the point of Rian van der Merwe writing that 'we' lost "faith in a philosophy that we thought was a sustainable way to ensure a healthy future for independent software development, where most innovation happens".
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RE[3]: Comment by marcp
by arpan on Sun 22nd Jul 2012 15:24 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by marcp"
arpan
Member since:
2006-07-30

Other than browsers which make money when a user searches, how many successful consumer software products do you know that are open source?

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RE[4]: Comment by marcp
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 22nd Jul 2012 16:38 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by marcp"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Other than browsers which make money when a user searches, how many successful consumer software products do you know that are open source?


Virtually all web services run on, use or are built with open source software. Facebook, Google, Twitter, and a gazilion others - all consumer products. Then there's browsers (as you mentioned), Android (massive success story if there ever was one), Linux (powers god knows how many consumer products) - and this is just what I can think of without trying.

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RE[5]: Comment by marcp
by arpan on Sun 22nd Jul 2012 18:50 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by marcp"
arpan Member since:
2006-07-30

All these successful open source products are used by developers like you and me. And these developers are capable of contributing back.

But the web services that the consumers use that you mentioned like Google, Facebook, Twitter etc. are all closed source.

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RE[5]: Comment by marcp
by moondevil on Sun 22nd Jul 2012 19:37 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by marcp"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

Virtually all web services run on, use or are built with open source software. Facebook, Google, Twitter, and a gazilion others - all consumer products.


Closed source server side code, which is paid by the data they get from you to sell to 3rd parties.

Then there's browsers (as you mentioned), Android (massive success story if there ever was one), Linux (powers god knows how many consumer products) - and this is just what I can think of without trying.


Android development costs are covered by hardware sales.

All those examples are not desktop/native applications like Sparrow.

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RE[4]: Comment by marcp
by marcp on Sun 22nd Jul 2012 18:12 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by marcp"
marcp Member since:
2007-11-23

I hope you did a research on your side.

Have you ever seen CMS, Blog, Web Portal, etc software of any sort? it usually shares open source model. It gives you "community" version, and paid one [commercial]. Feel free to contact the authors of this software. They won't tell you how much they earn, but I can assure you that these are successfull businessess.

Examples:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_content_management_systems

We also have Red Hat, IBM, HP using and promoting open source worldwide.

That's supplementary to what Thom have said.

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RE[5]: Comment by marcp
by arpan on Sun 22nd Jul 2012 18:52 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by marcp"
arpan Member since:
2006-07-30

As I mentioned above, all these are tools that are used by developers who are capable of contributing back.

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