Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 28th Aug 2012 18:18 UTC
Windows "Windows 8 changes a lot of things about how the operating system works, but one of the features Windows traditionalists will find jarring is the lack of a Start button. Although the button's functions are still present in various places, users may miss its easy click-and-start-typing familiarity. Well, Samsung's bringing it back. The all-in-one PCs Samsung unveiled this morning are the first Windows machines to sport the S Launcher, a simple widget that acts just like the old start button." This is not from The Onion. I repeat, this is not from The Onion.
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RE[2]: Oh dear
by MOS6510 on Tue 28th Aug 2012 18:56 UTC in reply to "RE: Oh dear"
MOS6510
Member since:
2011-05-12

The dock comes in many shapes and sizes, but Samsung picked the OS X one as inspiration.

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RE[3]: Oh dear
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 28th Aug 2012 18:58 in reply to "RE[2]: Oh dear"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

A dock is literally a row of icons. That's it. It was in Windows 1.0. It was in the first Acorn machines. It. Is. A. Row. Of. Icons.

If you ever needed even more proof this industry is completely and utterly ruined, this is it.

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RE[4]: Oh dear
by sagum on Tue 28th Aug 2012 19:02 in reply to "RE[3]: Oh dear"
sagum Member since:
2006-01-23

Yes, that is true, but who owns the patent to it?

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RE[4]: Oh dear
by MOS6510 on Tue 28th Aug 2012 19:03 in reply to "RE[3]: Oh dear"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

Not according to the dictionary, but as usually you have your own set of definitions. :-p

Let's leave it at that, because it so meaningless that Apple probably won't put any time in it.

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RE[4]: Oh dear
by mrstep on Wed 29th Aug 2012 15:49 in reply to "RE[3]: Oh dear"
mrstep Member since:
2009-07-18

NeXT had a dock. OS/2 had a dock. The Win 95 task bar was (debatably) an ugly version of a dock (ignoring the launching aspect). Nobody is saying that implementing a dock is novel.

There are flat docks, disjointed docks, tile docks, any number of ways to make it look, yet Samsung ends up copying Apple again with a shelf under the icons, including icon reflections on it. Seriously?

Whether it's legal for Samsung to do it, and whether the legal system is screwed up is another issue,... But. It. Is. Just. A. Copy. Again.

Apparently that's what Samsung does. Hopefully you never come up with any product idea that Samsung takes interest in. ;)

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RE[4]: Oh dear
by Mellin on Wed 29th Aug 2012 20:23 in reply to "RE[3]: Oh dear"
Mellin Member since:
2005-07-06

so apple sect members thinks that what apple have been using can't be used by samsung

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RE[3]: Oh dear
by Soulbender on Tue 28th Aug 2012 19:08 in reply to "RE[2]: Oh dear"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Yeah, we better stop this whole "being inspired" thing. Surely that can't be good for innovation ;)

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RE[4]: Oh dear
by MOS6510 on Tue 28th Aug 2012 19:13 in reply to "RE[3]: Oh dear"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

Samsung - Being Inspired

Hum, this does have marketing potential.

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RE[3]: Oh dear
by nej_simon on Tue 28th Aug 2012 20:23 in reply to "RE[2]: Oh dear"
nej_simon Member since:
2011-02-11

Project Looking Glass, an ugly java based desktop by Sun Microsystems, had a dock that looked just like that. It was demoed for the first time in 2003 ie. 4 years before Apple created a similar dock. Contrary to what some people (and apple) think, not every UI feature implemented by Apple is invented by them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Looking_Glass

Interestingly, Apple claimed that PLG infringed on their IP and threatened to sue Sun.

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RE[4]: Oh dear
by Morgan on Wed 29th Aug 2012 11:03 in reply to "RE[3]: Oh dear"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

And here I thought the OS X Dock was inspired by (and in early versions, even had legacy code from) the NeXTSTEP Dock as it existed in the late 80s through the mid-late 90s.

But hey, don't let facts get in the way right?

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RE[3]: Oh dear
by Mellin on Tue 28th Aug 2012 22:25 in reply to "RE[2]: Oh dear"
Mellin Member since:
2005-07-06

Apple doesn't own the dock

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RE[4]: Oh dear
by MOS6510 on Wed 29th Aug 2012 06:37 in reply to "RE[3]: Oh dear"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

Well, it's hard to tell who owns what these days.

For company image I don't think it's wise after getting countless accusations of copying Apple and loosing a court case about it to come up with a Windows launcher that looks like the OS X dock.

They're are creating an image that they copy Apple which will cause people to point to Apple on any new Samsung product even when the resemblance is so remote that it should requires a lot if imagination.

http://t.co/8vwbEycd

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RE[3]: Oh dear
by Mellin on Wed 29th Aug 2012 08:42 in reply to "RE[2]: Oh dear"
Mellin Member since:
2005-07-06

they could have looked at project looking glass (predates the dock)

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RE[4]: Oh dear
by MOS6510 on Wed 29th Aug 2012 08:47 in reply to "RE[3]: Oh dear"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

Well, probably not, but let's say they have. Nobody will believe them after a whole streak of Apple inspired things and a conviction.

A lot of geeks will have problems remembering Project Glass, let alone the consuming masses.

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