Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 26th Aug 2012 10:28 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless In light of the jury verdict in Apple vs. Samsung, the one-liners and jokes flew back and forth. One in particular, by Dan Frakes, has been copied and pasted all over the web, and it goes like this: "When the iPhone debuted, it was widely criticized for having no buttons/keys. Now people think the iPhone's design is 'obvious'." This is a very common trend in this entire debate that saddens me to no end: the iPhone is being compared to simple feature phones, while in fact, it should be compared to its true predecessor: the PDA. PDAs have always done with few buttons.
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RE[12]: Reaching
by Windows Sucks on Thu 30th Aug 2012 12:19 UTC in reply to "RE[11]: Reaching"
Windows Sucks
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2005-11-10

Newsflash, I am 42 so I am in the generation who grew up on Tandy computers, TI computers,Caldera Linux and Corel Linux. Who saw MS kill companies like Banyan and Novel, Corel, Lotus, Quatro Pro etc, etc, etc.

But unlike you I know that crying over the past wont change the future, so I deal with the here and now.

And the here and now is Apple and Microsoft and why are they the here in now? Because even though they didn't invent most of the stuff they now control, they took those ideas and made them profitable and popular! Thats how business works.

Its the reason that companies like Banyan and Novel who had way better products then Microsoft are dead. Great engineers but horrible business skills. Thats not Apple or Microsofts fault, it just boils down to the fact that no mater how great a product is and no matter how much it was built on ideals etc, if it can't sell then who the hell cares.

And you might not be techy, that's cool, but no mater how you try and flip it and show that a few non tech people care, in reality 99% of people don't care! They are not gonna stop buying iPhones because its a PDA clone or stop using Twitter because its an IRC clone or stop using Google and go back to Yahoo. Just not gonna happen! Just like no one stopped buying iPods cause Apple didn't invent it.

Everyday people don't want to write applications, people just want to pick up their tech and use it to make everyday life faster and to be connected. Which is why Apple is so popular. No one wants to fiddle with tech if they don't have to. They just want to pick it up and it mostly work. Doctors, psychologists, economists, professors, historians at least in America are some of the LAST people to get on the tech bandwagon. Most doctors are tech adverse which is why the government is almost forcing them to go to digital medical records and things of that nature.

In the end we are just going back and forth the reality is Apple, MS and even Google are here to stay. The lawsuits and crazy patents are here to stay. Get over it.

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RE[13]: Reaching
by TM99 on Thu 30th Aug 2012 13:26 in reply to "RE[12]: Reaching"
TM99 Member since:
2012-08-26

Hard to tell that you are that old really from your posts.

Saddens me to see that you don't care and that you truly believe that it is now said and done.

I don't live in the past, I simply will not forget it. It influences our here and now and helps us to better create a future. I embrace the future of technology daily, and I can give you as many examples of those professionals as you that do to your's that don't.

I look forward to owning a Microsoft Surface though I will not be running Windows 8 on my desktop. I will be receiving my Raspberry Pi soon, and I am very excited about it because it does represent that 'past' you seem to want to trade in on and deny. It is open. It is freedom. And it gets kids and adults programming again.

No I won't get over it. Program or be programmed as Ruskoff correctly wrote. Good luck with your choice.

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RE[14]: Reaching
by Windows Sucks on Thu 30th Aug 2012 14:56 in reply to "RE[13]: Reaching"
Windows Sucks Member since:
2005-11-10

Hard to tell that you are that old really from your posts.

Saddens me to see that you don't care and that you truly believe that it is now said and done.

I don't live in the past, I simply will not forget it. It influences our here and now and helps us to better create a future. I embrace the future of technology daily, and I can give you as many examples of those professionals as you that do to your's that don't.

I look forward to owning a Microsoft Surface though I will not be running Windows 8 on my desktop. I will be receiving my Raspberry Pi soon, and I am very excited about it because it does represent that 'past' you seem to want to trade in on and deny. It is open. It is freedom. And it gets kids and adults programming again.

No I won't get over it. Program or be programmed as Ruskoff correctly wrote. Good luck with your choice.


I don't have a problem with anything you said. And I don't have a problem with people who want to see the reality of the past, find the truth, take a different path etc. I love reading and learning about things like the Lilth etc. My issue is when the reason you are showing the past is to bash the present.

For instance my screen name is "Windows Sucks" because I don't particularly like MS Windows. But I don't then go on every MS post on the site and bash Windows and MS, its my opinion and you can see from my screen name my opinion but I am sure that no one wants to hear it from me on every post.

If you want to show me the past and PDA's and how they relate to today's tech, that's fine, when it becomes a bash Apple exercise then I take a little offense to it. Same as I would if it was all bashing Google or all bashing MS.

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