Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 12th Oct 2012 11:35 UTC
Apple Surprise, surprise - Apple, by default, tracks web browsing behaviour and location to better serve you ads. You have to specifically opt out of this tracking per individual iOS device that you own. Now we know why Apple has no problem with turning on 'Do Not Track' and not accepting tracking cookies by default: it has no effect on them whatsoever, because iOS 6 has its own independent user tracking mechanisms. Unlike what the Apple pundits claim, it's got nothing to do with respect for user privacy at all. Well paint me red and call me a girl scout: company selling ads tracks user behaviour. Shocker, huh?
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Selective tech amnesia
by kholinar on Fri 12th Oct 2012 11:56 UTC
kholinar
Member since:
2007-09-10

Surprise, surprise... The opt out page has been up from the very beginning and was widely publicized in the tech press. Must be a slow week waiting for the new iPad.

From 2010, with the introduction of iads: http://allthingsd.com/20100621/apple-heres-how-to-opt-out-of-our-ta...

So how long did it take all the other ad companies to post opt outs?

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RE: Selective tech amnesia
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 12th Oct 2012 12:09 in reply to "Selective tech amnesia"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Yup, but ask yourself: how many users are aware of this? Heck, how many people here were aware of the fact Apple tracks you in the first place? With all the talk from the Apple pundits about how Apple hates tracking and about how tracking is evil and about how Apple is so into protecting user's privacy, you'd think Apple wouldn't do this.

And yet they do. That is news to me, and considering how this story has been around the web these past few days, it's news to a lot of people. It puts to rest all those silly arguments about Apple turning on DNT by default and blocking cookies because they respect privacy - they only do it because it doesn't affect them and because it hurts competitors.

If Apple really cared about privacy, they would turn off their own tracking by default, instead of forcing you to opt out every iOS device you own. It delightfully exposes the hypocrisy of people like Gruber and Siegler.

Edited 2012-10-12 12:10 UTC

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steventroughtonsmith Member since:
2012-05-06

iOS has an ad system; you see ads in apps. The two options are:

• See ads that have absolutely no relevance to you
• See ads that you might actually like

There is no utopic third option.

I'll keep tracking on, thank you very much.

(Also note that iAd is only available in a handful of countries: USA, UK, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Japan, and Canada.)

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RE[2]: Selective tech amnesia
by Headrush on Fri 12th Oct 2012 14:10 in reply to "RE: Selective tech amnesia"
Headrush Member since:
2006-01-03

It's also worth noting how many smart phones users couldn't care less about tracking for ad purposes.

The problem is users, even when informed don't know, don't care, or don't understand some of the implications by allowing companies and governments to use these tracking/snooping tools.

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RE[2]: Selective tech amnesia
by kovacm on Fri 12th Oct 2012 21:14 in reply to "RE: Selective tech amnesia"
kovacm Member since:
2010-12-16

Yup, but ask yourself: how many users are aware of this? Heck, how many people here were aware of the fact Apple tracks you in the first place? With all the talk from the Apple pundits about how Apple hates tracking and about how tracking is evil and about how Apple is so into protecting user's privacy, you'd think Apple wouldn't do this.

LOL!

tryo to listen interview with Eric Schmidt

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/1249127/events/1589787

and than come back to talk about privacy!! ;)

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RE[2]: Selective tech amnesia
by jessesmith on Sat 13th Oct 2012 00:57 in reply to "RE: Selective tech amnesia"
jessesmith Member since:
2010-03-11

I don't think I've ever heard anyone claim Apple doesn't track people or that they are in support of privacy. In fact, given all the stories about tracking iDevices, backdoors and ads and such I would think it was pretty obvious Apple tracks its customers.

Still, some people miss it the first dozen times around so I guess it's good OSNews to joining the chorus in warning people about how private iOS is not.

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RE: Selective tech amnesia
by Thomas2005 on Fri 12th Oct 2012 14:33 in reply to "Selective tech amnesia"
Thomas2005 Member since:
2005-11-07

Surprise, surprise... The opt out page has been up from the very beginning and was widely publicized in the tech press. Must be a slow week waiting for the new iPad.

I have a great question. Why should we even have to opt out of being tracked instead of having to make a conscious effort to opt in to be tracked?

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RE[2]: Selective tech amnesia
by phoudoin on Fri 12th Oct 2012 15:43 in reply to "RE: Selective tech amnesia"
phoudoin Member since:
2006-06-09

Why should we even have to opt out of being tracked instead of having to make a conscious effort to opt in to be tracked?


Default values are set according to interest's of the one making it default.

If it was off by default, end user may ignore that his behavior *could* generate profitable knowledge to you.

If it is on by default, end user may ignore that his behavior *is* generating profitable knowledge to you.

Search no more.

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