Linked by Howard Fosdick on Fri 23rd Nov 2012 14:03 UTC
In the News Hard to believe, but articles are popping up at business websites claiming that venerable Hewlett-Packard may fail. In their most recent fiasco, HP wrote off a loss of $8.8 of their $11.1 US billion acquisition of Autonomy and have alleged fraud in the deal. Revenue is down 7% from a year ago and the stock has hit a 10-year low. The company is laying off 27K employees but that may not be enough. Some speculate HP might be broken up into parts with buy-outs involved. This article from last May offers a good in-depth analysis of how all these problems came to pass.
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RE[4]: Poor Support or Product
by Soulbender on Sat 24th Nov 2012 02:27 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Poor Support or Product"
Soulbender
Member since:
2005-08-18

Eh... so does an Ethernet-connected printer



Very few people actually want to wire their whole house for Ethernet.

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RE[5]: Poor Support or Product
by Alfman on Sat 24th Nov 2012 03:03 in reply to "RE[4]: Poor Support or Product"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Soulbender,

"Very few people actually want to wire their whole house for Ethernet."

I just saw my brother recently, we bought some wifi gear that needed to be configured via ethernet. I thought this wouldn't be a problem, but I quickly discovered that the macbook pro of his lacks any ethernet connectivity at all. Lucky I had my laptop around to set up the devices. Granted, one could carry a dongle everywhere, but in my eyes the macbook pro fell significantly short of it's "pro" designation because it would have left my brother in a pickle if I weren't there with a full featured laptop.


/tangent

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shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

My Kyocera Laser is available to ALL the computers in my hose over WiFi. I've just connected it to my WiFi hub with a bit of Cat-5.
That is the sort of config that was being proposed (I guess).
Then you don't have to rely on the crappy WiFi drivers in the printer.

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UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

Sadly, you are one of only three people who have responded who actually seem to get the point... in fact, in a nutshell, you pretty much nailed it (as did the other two).

Edited 2012-11-25 17:26 UTC

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UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

Very few people actually want to wire their whole house for Ethernet.

Wiring just the bare essentials that you want to have up for use at all times is hardly "the whole house." You seem to be forgetting all the computers on the network that will, you know, be the systems to actually print to those printers in most, if not all, cases...

And considering you have to have one cable running from the printer to the wall (good luck getting it to work without power), what's a second one going to hurt? Seriously? I honestly doubt that people move their printers every two weeks for the fun of it... printers are the kinds of things you set up, leave alone, and just use to print things.

And by the way, nowhere did I advocate using Ethernet cables for every single system on the network... nowhere. Only where it makes sense. And I'm sorry, but for printers... it just makes sense to bypass using Wi-Fi directly.

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

You seem to be forgetting all the computers on the network that will, you know, be the systems to actually print to those printers in most, if not all, cases...


So? Maybe I just don't want to deal with a bunch of cabling? Maybe they're all wireless?

And considering you have to have one cable running from the printer to the wall (good luck getting it to work without power), what's a second one going to hurt?


Yes, what's one more going to hurt. And another one. And another one...
The less cables I have to deal with the better and if the WiFi in the printer works well then why not use it?

And I'm sorry, but for printers... it just makes sense to bypass using Wi-Fi directly


For you maybe but not for everyone.

Edited 2012-11-25 02:35 UTC

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