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RE[8]: Slashdot Circa 1999
by ze_jerkface on Tue 27th Nov 2012 11:18
in reply to "RE[7]: Slashdot Circa 1999"
Cpanel is really only useful for people who want to re-sell hosting to mon'n'pop companies. Nothing wrong with that but Cpanel has no place in any other setting.
Now we are getting to the crux of the issue. CPANEL is used heavily for shared hosting. Those hosts setup RHEL/CNET LAMP environments to use CPANEL which creates inertia. It's not about whether you like it or not. It's just one of many factors that have made RHEL/CENT the de facto distro for LAMP stacks. As inertia builds more software is only supported/tested in this environment and stepping outside of it increases the conflict risk. From a business perspective you also have to consider long term risk. In 5 years any new LAMP software will have to run on RHEL/CENT for it to be profitable. It's extremely low risk when it comes to compatibility and support.
Oracle? As in Oracle Linux? Hah. Hahaha. Sure, and the Pope will convert to Islam. ...
Perhaps in the "enterprise" space RH/CNT will remain popular
Perhaps in the "enterprise" space RH/CNT will remain popular
Perhaps? There is only one enterprise distro that the Fortune 50 will consider. The remaining competition is between support providers, with Oracle being #2.
RE[9]: Slashdot Circa 1999
by Soulbender on Tue 27th Nov 2012 11:45
in reply to "RE[8]: Slashdot Circa 1999"
Those hosts setup RHEL/CNET LAMP environments to use CPANEL which creates inertia.
You have a point and this is why we don't use this kind of hosting. We used to and boy was it ever a bitch to deal with cpanel. Even on the supposedly supported platform.
It's just one of many factors that have made RHEL/CENT the de facto distro for LAMP stacks.
My point is that nothing lasts forever. I see developers increasingly frustrated with having to cater to RH stone age versions of everything and pushing for a move to greener pastures. Especially in smaller, more flexible companies.
As inertia builds more software is only supported/tested in this environment and stepping outside of it increases the conflict risk.
The amount of software that ONLY support RLEL/CNT is very, very small. Most support the major distros like RHEL, SuSE and Ubuntu.
There is only one enterprise distro that the Fortune 50 will consider.
I'm glad I don't have to care what Fortune 50 considers good because most of the time, well, it isn't.




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That may be true but Cpanel is still junk. Heck, even Webmin is better although admittedly Cpanel is not as horrible as Plesk.
I'm sure it will continue to exist and be popular in certain circles though.
Also, even though RH/CNT is officially supported it's still incredibly fragile and easy to break and if you're doing *any* kind of configuration management (puppet, cfengine, chef etc) you can forget about it. Cpanel is really only useful for people who want to re-sell hosting to mon'n'pop companies. Nothing wrong with that but Cpanel has no place in any other setting.
Except Office (I presume you mean Microsoft Office) is an actually useful and reasonably good product. CPanel isn't.
Oracle? As in Oracle Linux? Hah. Hahaha. Sure, and the Pope will convert to Islam.
Perhaps in the "enterprise" space RH/CNT will remain popular but "enterprise" apps and software is generally quite awful and out-of-date so it's a good match.
For everyone else who's even remotely agile RHEL/CENT (especially the 5.x series) is a dead chapter.
Well, not quite. Amazon Linux is quite good and up-to-date for a CentOS-based distro and as long as AWS is popular I guess that alone will keep CentOS alive.
Edited 2012-11-27 09:50 UTC