Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 28th Nov 2012 16:32 UTC
Gnome Not even GNOME itself could ignore the GNOME 3 criticism for much longer. "As part of the planning for the DropOrFixFallbackMode feature, we've decided that we will compile a list of supported gnome-shell extensions. This will be a small list, focused on just bringing back some central 'classic' UX elements: classic alt tab, task bar, min/max buttons, main menu. To ensure that these extensions keep working, we will release them as a tarball, just like any other module."
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RE[3]: they just dont get it
by Morgan on Thu 29th Nov 2012 11:07 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: they just dont get it"
Morgan
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2005-06-29

It's a long story, but to sum up: Over the past several months the core dev team has made some radical and abrupt changes to the distro, including changing to systemd (which I personally had no problem with apart from the mishandling of the switch itself) to doing away with the excellent installer in favor of a cryptic script based install. There were some less jarring changes but those two were critical to the controversy.

Whenever they were questioned about the changes, most of the Powers That Be responded at best with "f--k off, noob" even if the user herself was old hat. More than one core member made statements to the effect of "it's our intention to drive away anyone who doesn't follow the Arch Way without question" or "Noobs need not apply; if you can't figure out how the new (lack of an) installer works, you don't deserve to run Arch". A few people (myself included, though I was never personally involved in the fight) decided to drop the distro and either take up another pacman based OS or go to another distro family altogether.

All that said, it's still an excellent OS and one of the best for learning the "guts" of GNU/Linux. I just personally can't stand the rampant elitism and childish behavior of the leaders, which is mirrored in the Gnome dev camp.

Edit: If you're curious about alternatives, I've found Manjaro Linux to be an excellent replacement for Arch. It's built on the Arch platform and uses pacman, but has its own repositories. You can still build from the AUR if Manjaro lacks a package you need, and of course you can compile from source as well.

Edited 2012-11-29 11:10 UTC

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RE[4]: they just dont get it
by Alexander on Thu 29th Nov 2012 15:19 in reply to "RE[3]: they just dont get it"
Alexander Member since:
2011-03-19

I actually liked the new installer more than the old one. I'm not particularly experienced arch user, but i had no problem with it.

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RE[5]: they just dont get it
by Morgan on Thu 29th Nov 2012 20:26 in reply to "RE[4]: they just dont get it"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Same here; while the old installer was excellent and allowed for nearly anyone to install Arch, the new one was no problem for anyone already used to GNU/Linux. I do wish they had kept the old one alive as an option for newbies, but apparently that was against the Arch Way.

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