Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 30th Nov 2012 21:54 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems "I was prepared to write that the Windows 8 interface was forcing unnecessary touchscreen controls on people who wouldn't appreciate them, particularly if they were simply grafted onto a traditional laptop. But the more I've used Windows 8, despite its faults, the more I've become convinced that touchscreens are the future - even vertical ones." I can see his point. I, too, have often felt the desire to touch regular and laptop displays, especially when doing things like photo and video.
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This just sucks...
by fatjoe on Fri 30th Nov 2012 22:33 UTC
fatjoe
Member since:
2010-01-12

I don't believe anything I read on The Verge these days. In fact, if they state something I automatically assume the reverse is true.

... which would mean that touchscreen laptops suck. I will assume that until Anand does a proper review ...

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RE: This just sucks...
by leonalpha on Sat 1st Dec 2012 06:35 in reply to "This just sucks..."
leonalpha Member since:
2011-02-02

"If you want to launch a program on your desktop, which makes more sense? Reach down to a special glass surface and drag a finger across it just long enough to land a floating pointer arrow on top of the icon, and then tap? Or simply reach up to a visible icon and tap it? Why try to aim that pointer at a little X icon, or remember keyboard shortcuts like Alt-F4, when I can just swipe down from the top of the screen to close a Windows 8 program? Why painstakingly zoom a web browser in 10 percent increments using a disembodied keyboard or trackpad when you can smoothly manipulate it between your fingers with pinch-to-zoom?"

Which makes more sense to you, your highness?

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RE[2]: This just sucks...
by WereCatf on Sat 1st Dec 2012 07:04 in reply to "RE: This just sucks..."
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

when I can just swipe down from the top of the screen to close a Windows 8 program?


Ohh, so that's how you do it! I was wondering what the "proper" way of doing that was. That's totally undiscoverable, though, and quite clearly says something about the interface..

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RE: This just sucks...
by aliquis on Sat 1st Dec 2012 07:51 in reply to "This just sucks..."
aliquis Member since:
2005-07-23

A friend had just bought a Windows 8 laptop with touch-screen.

He likes it to.

(And he's a nerd.)

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RE: This just sucks...
by kaiwai on Sat 1st Dec 2012 14:23 in reply to "This just sucks..."
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

I don't believe anything I read on The Verge these days. In fact, if they state something I automatically assume the reverse is true.

... which would mean that touchscreen laptops suck. I will assume that until Anand does a proper review ...


I second that - the only thing that is probably worse than the articles are the forums themselves. The reality is that touch screens make sense for devices like the ThinkPad Yoga but honestly the attraction beyond a few niches is pretty much a novelty that is later ignored just as Thunderbolt on my old iMac pretty much stood idle as I felt high and mighty believing I had something that none of the PC users had. The reality is that when the rubber hit the road you'll see those touch desktop screens will be in use for a while and then the end user will go back to using a mouse/keyboard just the same with traditional laptops.

If the aim of Metro was to spur on the development of hybrid devices then hey, that is great, cool bananas but if they're trying to get touch screens in all devices no matter how stupid and impractical then such a feature for many users will become as useless as the Thunderbolt port I had on my iMac. If Microsoft really want to do something that'll benefit end users then they should expand WinRT so then not only Metro applications are written in it but also desktop ones to - have context sensitive XAML interfaces where the application launches either in tablet or desktop mode depending upon what mode it is being run in at that point in time. Having an improved and evolved API would also help developers as well as to avoid the esoteric issues of win32 and move over to a cleaner set of API's so then more focus can be paid to the applications than working around issues or Microsoft having to balance moving forward and maintaining backwards compatibility. IMHO it seems that the touch screen is to Microsoft like what Retina is to Apple - a gimmick to bring in the punters but closer inspection show very little benefit to end users in day to day real world usage.

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